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Give me a reasonably priced, accessible way to enjoy the content and I will happily pay for it.
Streaming has become untenable and now it's neither affordable nor convenient to watch what I want to watch. And with how frequently shows and movies bounce around platforms, who knows if the show I want to watch this weekend will be still available on one if the many platforms I've been paying for.
I'm just done with it.
I know people like to shit on Spotify. But it's the reason I stopped pirating music forever ago and the reason I've paid for it for years now.
It's fairly reasonably priced at $10-11/mo. It's available on basically any phone, computer, tablet, etc. And nearly every song I could ever want to listen to is just there, seamlessly. You can even download the songs to play locally for when you don't have Internet access. I will admit there are some rare occasions where a song I want is not available there, but it's so infrequent that it doesn't at all impact my listening experience. I can also very easily discover new music by generating playlists based on a song I like.
Now look at something like Netflix. It used to be this way...priced well and had everything you could ever want to watch on it. But now everyone and their mother has their own steaming platform. It's absolutely ridiculous. It's become as expensive as cable to get the same watching experience as TV streaming sites used to be. Sure there are people who say "well I just periodically subscribe and unsubscribe to the service I want to make it cheaper". And sure, it makes it cheaper, but it sure as hell isn't convenient. I don't want to have to fuck with all that shit. So I use illegal TV/movie streaming sites instead. Or I just watch YouTube videos or use free services like Tubi and Pluto. Paid for TV streaming services absolutely suck ass nowadays.
If we started having issues with artist and production company fragmentation, I would cancel my Spotify subscription. But thankfully that hasn't happened and I hope it never does. The trend doesn't seem to be looking that way thank goodness.
If you have a reasonably priced service that has everything I could want, I pay for it. If you don't, then I pirate. Simple as that.
The biggest issue to me is that all music services offer effectively the same access to music. I'm not choosing between Spotify and YouTube music because my favorite artist is on one, but not the other. However we are conditioned to think this is ok when it comes to video. Streaming services never should have been content creators, we should be choosing Netflix vs Hulu based on price, app quality, video quality.
I was never conditioned to think it was ok for video and it's why I hate TV/movie streaming services lol
I still pirate my music, using YouTube music revanced, but the main reason I do it is because I find it to expensive for how often I use it. I don't use it that often, mainly just when cooking dinner, if there was a way for me to use YouTube music for $5 a month, I would probably pay for it.
Also for me it has to be YouTube music, as alot of the songs I listen to aren't on other platforms, (song covers, and remixes).
YSK that YouTube Premium can be bought over a VPN for a whole lot less than the regular retail price, it’s a bit fiddly to set up but I’ve got a Nigerian based family account that costs me £1.76 a month.
Ah see I listen to music all the time. When I was in school, it would be hours upon hours every day. Nowadays, I listen to it far less, but it's still whenever I drive, which is near daily. And when I feel like it sometimes I listen a lot at work.
I'm with you. I've had a Spotify sub for more than a decade and have no plans to cancel.
192kbps max and now artists and corpos can pay to promote music on the front page.
No thx
Spotify claims 320kbps with premium (see the link below). Has this claim been debunked or something?
https://support.spotify.com/us/article/audio-quality/
Noted! I didn’t know about that, my info might be dated.
I ended up on Apple Music cuz they have heady lossless by default.
… I still horde flacs tho
Yeah I could definitely see a lot of streaming services starting out with lower quality before Internet speeds and such have gotten more robust.
Absolutely. I’m very thankful for infinite fast mobile data now. I’d never have signed up for a music streaming service if I didn’t have they.
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Oh let’s be real here, this is what capitalism does. It chooses the worst possible option for entertainment because it’s what makes the most money. What makes the most money is not making you happy, but getting you to stay subscribed.
Let me tell you the real secret. You know what it costs to rent a movie online? And stream it? And then never watch it again? Yeah now justify that against streaming services.
I’ll tell you right now, go get Plex. If you don’t already use a media server, start. Because chances are that you don’t actually watch 90% of what’s on those services. So that $15 a month for content you don’t own could easily be $20 a month on content that you do actually own. Not to mention there’s no ads involved and you can stream as many devices as you want from anywhere. Get friends to pitch in and it’s even better.
The ONLY argument for this is convenience of all the shows at your fingertips. Except now that’s not the case and they’re on different services, screw it, either pirate the media or buy it used on disc.
Agreed, totally depends on how much you watch. But shopping used DVDs and like I said banding together with friends to buy content eventually begins to work out better for you.
I’m not someone who consumes tv and movie content en masse so it works out for me to do this and for a lot of people who watch a season or two of a show a month, it’s not that much more expensive to own.
What I meant about the capitalism concept is that the core idea isn’t about enjoyment or getting to watch what you want. It’s not about convenience anymore. This is a capitalistic cycle where it stops innovating and starts to poison it’s consumer.
So shows will now be splintered across services, shows will get cancelled for being less profitable, and the overall quality will dip because we’re driving art to the bottom price. Whatever makes shareholders more money. And is this true? I feel like it is. Quality of shows has dipped quite a bit to fit the streaming service pricing.
We can argue about whether people want that or not, but it’s basically just what’s been done with every other consumer item. Dominate the market, lose money, get the subscribers, and then make their experience shittier over time.
This is how I do it.
I pay for Netflix, Prime (only really for the free shipping), Disney+, Apple TV+ and Spotify, if it’s not on any of these then I’m going to pirate it.
The whole exclusivity stuff is just rubbish, I get the reasoning but if you can’t make your content easily accessible then I just don’t want to pay for it.