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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by shapis@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
 

I have a few questions on how to best behave to be as welcoming and inclusive as possible without sounding bad. I hope you guys don't hate me.

I'm just a straight male. Are my pronouns he/him? Is that how I should tell people? Do you actually tell them as you meet them ? Do I have to wait for a certain social cue ?

How about online. Should I tell people or have it on my personal profile somewhere?

And about respecting other people's pronouns. How do i figure them out ? Is it a big faux pas if I don't before I know them ? Is it a faux pas if I refer to someone I just met and I assumed to be male as he/him?

I've never seen anyone referring to anyone irl by non conventional pronouns. Is it an actual thing or is it currently being pushed to make the world a more inclusive place?

I'd love some help with all of this.

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[โ€“] shapis@lemmy.ml 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

That's a relief.

So just go on about my merry way and if someone corrects me respect their choices ?

[โ€“] fubo@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah. Like if you thought someone's name was Joe but it was actually Jeff and they tell you that, it's not a big deal. Just one of those things that sometimes happens if you're meeting new people.

[โ€“] OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh no, if I think someone's name is Joe and it turns out being Jeff, I feel atrocious.

[โ€“] fubo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Sure, but you probably have the sense to focus that into remembering their name correctly next time. You wouldn't go telling them that Jeff is a molester name because Epstein and that therefore they should pretend to be named Joe.

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[โ€“] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 58 points 1 year ago

From what I've seen gender diverse people generally seem to understand the difference between someone's who's just made a mistake and someone who refuses to use the correct pronoun despite being corrected numerous times.

[โ€“] luxyr42@lemmy.dormedas.com 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That last bit is the important thing. If someone tells you pronouns, use them. If someone tells you they prefer "they/them" and you keep using he or she on purpose, you are disrespecting them.

We all make mistakes sometimes and most people I've met who use alternative pronouns that may conflict with their socially expected appearance don't mind correcting someone a few times or will brush it off a few times, but more than that, especially if you see and interact with this person regularly, you become an asshole.

[โ€“] Transcendant@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I try really hard to be respectful of someones pronoun choice but I will readily admit I find 'they/them' requires quite active concentration and thought not to refer to someone as she / he.

Writing interview notes have actually helped a lot for me to use they/them since we have to be gender neutral in our notes. Now it's not so hard to switch into using it when needed.

[โ€“] gibmiser@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I think the people who end up getting upset are the ones who are isolated from the LGBT community in real life.

[โ€“] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, that's about it. A good tactic if you're not sure about someone's gender is to lead with your own: "hi, I'm shapis, he/him". They'll invariably follow suit most of the time. If they don't and you get it wrong, well, you tried and were polite about it.

[โ€“] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know I'm out of touch on this, but I just can't imagine someone introducing themselves in this way. Particularly if you're a cis male and your pronouns are he/him. I guess it depends on context.

[โ€“] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's definitely still something new. It's not something I would typically do in 99% of face to face encounters. In work presentations in front of a large audience we typically just fill it in on the introduction card at the start.

It's only a tactic for the edge case where someone presents ambiguously, in which case they're probably perfectly used to it as a way to politely ask. And yeah, it's a little awkward, but no more so that any other "polite chat with a new person" banter.
You can usually tell what pronouns to use via normal social awareness, and when in doubt, sharing yours is a polite way to prompt others to share theirs.