this post was submitted on 22 Sep 2023
195 points (98.5% liked)

Fediverse

28505 readers
362 users here now

A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).

If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to !moderators@lemmy.world!

Rules

Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration), Search Lemmy

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Is it just the momentum and word of mouth, or are there improved features as well?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] art@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Look, on Mastodon you have to pick a server. That's just too hard to do.

That's why email never took off.

[–] BirdLaw@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

unironically this.

You think 'oh it's not that hard to just pick a sever', but it is. Most people look at it and go 'well my favorite influencer or friend is on X, but I can only make an account on Y. Can I still communicate with them?! Which advantage has sever Y over server Z? etc. It's it's ONE barrier which is one barrier too much for many people (on top of all the new things they have to learn anyway when they decide to get on a new social network)

Most people don't know the ins and outs of how these federated systems work, like you do - and it's scary to them to be confronted with a question about system architecture, when all they want to do is read news or memes.

And it's interesting that you mention email, because I'd argue email has the exact same problem. Depending on which country you live in, you'll notice that most people use primarily one email provider per region/country. Why? because their friends use the same email provider. You know how many people told me "well, I don't have email, but I can give you my Gmail if you want...?" Email just 'took off' because it had nothing to compete with for 20 years and businesses depended on it as well.

Most people don't know the ins and outs of how these federated systems work, like you do

I don't think you at all need to understand federation other than it means you can join from multiple places and that typically they mostly all talk so just pick a medium to popular one.

I still don't really understand exactly how federation works and I don't think it hinders me at all to not understand it.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sarcasm aside, you're not wrong. The top result for "Lemmy" (that isn't about Motörhead) is for Join-Lemmy.org. I'm a tech-minded person, but when I saw this "join a server" crap instead of a front page, I decided that I'm too old and that it's too much effort to figure out. Now imagine someone who isn't tech-minded wants to join. They'll fuck off even sooner than I did.

Hell, the only reason why I'm here is because I decided that Imgur isn't a good alternative. They're no better than reddit (i.e. no 3rd party apps). So I decided to stop being lazy and figure it the fuck out. Others might not be as motivated.

[–] Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 1 points 1 year ago

It's ironic because bluesky is also going to have multiple servers sometime soon

[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... meanwhile, every account system: please enter your email

he forgot to put : /s