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Is right libertarianism not a real ideology? I recognize that it's awful, but that doesn't mean it's not a political position that can be taken. I only use the political compass because it seems more useful than the simple left-right spectrum.
I might say Marxists denigrate the political compass because it lays bare the authoritarianism of the position and the fact that communism is bigger than that specific position.
If there is a system that works better, please give me a link.
Your buying into the central assumption that their is such a thing as authoritarianism. All governments are authoritarian its a meaningless distiction in political economy.
Right libertarianism is a bullshit ideology, because its just liberalism.
The system that works better is just reality. Understanding that political economy is a single entity not separate axis
What!? Are you claiming there is no such thing as authoritarianism? What do you call it when one group of people claims more territory then they need for themselves and then claims they have the right to use violence to get their way and you don't?
All governments are authoritarian its a meaningless distiction in political economy.
If you see government as the only way politics can exist I guess that would make sense. You really should learn about anarchism.
Libertarianism is about maximizing autonomy and reducing or eliminating state power. The reasons why one might want those things, and the methods used to attain and maintain them make a distinction between left and right libertarianism.
This is exactly my problem with the political compass and why i said it was bullshit to start with. You are defining libertarianism as an ideology that can only be described by the political compass. Methods and distictions that are only meaningful if you sunder the concept of political economy. That's why i said its only purpose is to make "right libertarianism" seem like a real ideology when its just liberalism
"You're defining speed as something that can only be described by a speedometer" I can spew nonsense too.
You certainly can spew nonsense
He's saying that it's not a coherent political ideology so it exists only on the political compass
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm
I've read this, I just think it's wrong. Marx isn't a god, he not everything he said is unquestionable truth.
Engels wrote On Authority, not Marx
This wasn't written by Marx but by Engels, how closely did you actually read this?
Basically, all bourgeois states are constantly "authoritarian" and any revolution against them must also be "authoritarian" (ie, it must use organized applications of force targeted at specific enemies)