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I had some pretty brutal discussions with my dad who is a hardcore liberal of the "the answer lies somewhere between the middle of left and right" type. He agrees with a lot of socialist stances and class war but refuses to acknowledge that a revolution is needed to achieve socialism, that killing people wouldn't make us better than the owning class and that violence is bad and that we should try to change the system by voting that voting will bring lasting change and not a revolution....all this kind of crap. He thinks that i got too "radicalized" and that im stuck in a bubble of propaganda and now he wants to have more control of the media i consume and that when he sees me watching or reading an article that i show him the sources of these articles. He really wants me to "keep an open-mind" which to him literally just means returning to being a liberal. The more of these discussions i have with my father the more i feel a distance between us and i would love if we just ignored our political opinions and kept living our lives how we always did but he insists that i am being groomed by some megalomaniac organization or a goofy ah evil person to join some kind of leftist jihad: "Yes you are entitled to have your opinion but you should also keep an open mind but the problem is that your opinion is not correct" that all i hear from him.

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[–] Haywire@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You know there is a whole spectrum of actions between voting and violence.

[–] MarlKarx@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i know but me and my father always return to the same question: "then why dont we just vote away the negatives of capitalism" whose negatives are so tightly connected to the pillars that make up capitalism that you simply cannot just vote away some bad aspect of it without getting rid of it entirely

[–] chesmotorcycle@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

As Lucy Parsons said over a hundred years ago, "Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth."

[–] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Liberals will literally call nonviolent civil disobedience and protest violence when it's nothing of the sort. If they think that is violence why not just go for the whole hog?