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I know we're living in the crapsack timeline, but I didn't realize it was a crapsack made of little shit people that the Republicans sculpted like they were Play-Doh and then threw them in the sack and made screaming noises, pretending the little shit people were screaming, before declaring that sack to be their new second-in-command after Trump.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Constitution does not state the individual has to be convicted. They only had to aid in any way, shape, or form an insurrection, which he did.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with you, but so far the courts have not. Remember that the courts consist of judges who may or may not have allegiances or prejudices that influence their reading of the constitution. So while we can agree we both think Trump should be disqualified by the letter of the law, we cannot know for sure that he will be disqualified. If he is convicted of seditious conspiracy, then the pathway becomes much clearer.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If he's convicted on almost ANY of those 91 indictments on his shoulders, he's basically eligible for the rest of his life in prison. There's A LOT of serious charges there. I want to say most carry a 10 year minimum on the low end and 20+ on the high. So... changes are he isn't getting away with anything here imo.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Except not all of those charges disqualify him from holding office, and there's nothing preventing him from running from prison. Then what happens next? What if he wins? It's not really that far fetched to imagine. I agree, I think it's unlikely, but I didn't think it was likely Hillary would shit the bed in 2016, either. So here we are.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but you're making a big assumption that the middle of the road folks out there are going to vote for dude in prison which just isn't going to happen

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone that voted for Trump twice is nowhere near the middle of the road. It's alarming how many of them exist, but that's our reality. You're making a big assumption that Trump voters will suddenly be reasonable despite all evidence to the contrary.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but it's not always as wrinkly as it should be.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

A conviction would generally be seen as what establishes the fact that the person has done that act.

Which is probably for the best. I'd remind you that plenty of Americans right now would say that Biden has committed treason of some kind, so it's probably a good thing that there's a formal legal process for this.