There’s nothing wrong with that particular demographic or anything, but it doesn’t feel like a win to me if the entire fediverse is just one big monoculture.

I wonder what it is that is keeping more diverse users away? Is picking a server/federation too complicated? Or is it that they don’t see any content that they like?

Thoughts?

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[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A central account instance rather defeats the point of a federated system.

With federation it's ensured that any single instance is only a small part of the whole, and that if any instance goes down (or worse, goes rogue and becomes a bad actor) then the impact of that is minimised. All users being registered on a single instance is akin to putting all your eggs in one basket.

I do totally understand from the perspective of new users that it's hard to understand what to do or how to do it but that is a problem that could be better addressed with clearer onboarding. e.g "Choose any one of these recommended instances to sign up. It doesn't matter which - you'll be able to see the same content and communities across all of Lemmy no matter which you pick"*

*mostly, but close enough

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

To be honest, I’m still not sold on federation, and that’s going to be a huge hurdle to overcome with the general public.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think its the only way to not be completely dependent on some single entity.

So far we have seen all of them go bad with time. At least with federation, you and me can talk with no corporation in the middle, which brings me back to the lovely feeling of the 90's with BBS's and forums. Before the corps took over and put ads everywhere, and basically took the world hostage.

If something big happens, ordinary people need to be able to talk without censorship. And its going to be very hard to censor a distributed network like Lemmy.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I think it’s a huge advantage. It’s not that confusing that different websites share content. I think all it would take is something like “sign up for the site you like or one in your state” and for the default home pages to be All vs Local.

[–] PhantomPhanatic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does anyone know of any Game Theory-esque analysis of how late-stage Fediverse is supposed to work? What's the end game? What happens to the Fediverse with all the different kinds of players involved at this point?

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I see each topic having their own instance, a giant web of interest connected content servers... I'll call it, the internet 😄 For real though, this shit feels like the old days back in the 90s ♥️

[–] Woozy@dmv.social 2 points 1 year ago

Choosing an instance is no more confusing than choosing an email provider. I signed up on several right away. I figured I'd stick with the one I liked best, but since they all run the same software it makes little difference. One instance lost its domain, another is constantly being DOSed. Otherwise it's simple.

[–] gxgx55@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A central account instance rather defeats the point of a federated system.

Does it? Would it not be possible for a minimal global account system to exist, which ONLY handles logging in and identity? Any user-related data could still exist in instances, not centralized.

I am pretty new to this type of system so maybe I am wrong but it does seem like both the biggest barrier to wider adoption and rather solvable: in current terms, imagine if the "login" instance had no communities, only account log in, while other instances have no log in, but integrate the "central" one. In case decentralization is wanted, I think it'd be possible to have multiple "login" type instances exist in a consensus, at which point problems and solutions start looking similar to cryptocurrency, but without the need to deal with "currency" or any of those ethical landmines - it'd just need to do the task of multiple instances agreeing to dataset of existing users.

[–] Woozy@dmv.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does it make sense to fave one central e-mail account management server? Email is a federated system, though it's becoming less federated all the time.