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Something I've always wondered is what kind of women were in the lives of incel men when they were young. Did they have a bad relationship with their mother? Did they lack sisters or other female family members? Or is their family situation irrelevant? Maybe some particular situation in their early years caused them to develop a complex around women?

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[–] thantik@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've never met any incels in the real world. I assume it's because like many other synthetic groupings of individual traits, they're a minority that has worked themselves into an echo chamber which has simply gotten loud enough to be noticed by others not within that group.

I find that actually going out and interacting with people in the real world, absolves most individuals of these kind of horrendous traits. In the real world, people can call you out for your bullshit and you can't just close the browser tab and run away from it.

[–] ellabee@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I knew a guy in real life who got into men's rights and Men Going Their Own Way nonsense- basically, he had sex so he didn't qualify for incel, but he held a lot of the same beliefs.

I was the only woman he seemed to have any respect for. He didn't respect his mother or younger sister, felt they had taken advantage of his dad and were now taking advantage of him. The one girlfriend I know he had, was very manipulative and not a good girlfriend.

I pointed out all the issues with his thinking and his MRA, MGOTW sources multiple times. he'd come back around to being reasonable for a while, then wander back into the toxic wilds of the internet. eventually, I gave up; I can't be the only voice of reason you bother to listen to.

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's interesting that he did have a sister. I always thought that growing up with a sister would make it easier for a man to understand womens' perspectives since they literally grew up together.

[–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If the sister was bad to the man growing up, it'll have the opposite effect

[–] someacnt@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

People call out your faulty behavior? What?