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the second quote is I think just her commenting on how she and other israelis reacted to the type of news they were hearing on october 7th which was probably largely shaped by zionist media, they probably highlighted any holocaust comparison they could make and it worked to create the reaction they wanted, you're just hearing her mention that reaction here. The first quote is bad and I do think its wrong to compare october 7th to the holocaust I just think she (and a lot of other israelis, she didn't come up with this analysis she's just repeating what she's probably heard) sees/hears about israeli jewish non-military getting killed in their own community and instantly thinks of the holocaust because that historical example has been drilled into every israeli's head.
I don't disagree with any of your criticisms of the 2, they are terminal libs but they're also just normies who don't know much about politics and assume that most of what they've been taught is true. I think they've both shown a capacity to reflect and change though and I like that quality in people.
I just don't like how you're giving her the benefit of the doubt. If she's being influenced by zionist media, that means she is now parroting it to the hundreds of thousands of people that watch the podcast. I'm not ok with that.
That reactionary thought should be brutally crushed
I guess I'm giving them a pass because they seemed to be emotionally affected by the attacks on Israelis in their homes because it was truly unprecedented but they haven't let that emotion turn into support for the Israeli retaliation, unlike a lot of other libs who turned into genocide fans right away. So just slightly better than the typical lib but yeah maybe not worth giving the benefit of the doubt. Either way they need reeducation
Once again, I disagree. Ethan is parroting Israeli state propaganda like the beheaded babies and the pink blood. He got so mad about most of his chat saying the pink blood was fake that he turned chat off to create an echo-chamber.
Hila denied that the IDF tortures Palestinians on a daily basis, even though she previously volunteered to go on a night raid to steal Palestinians from their homes.
Ethan tried to do a 'gotcha' on Hasan about IDF raping Palestinians. He doesn't believe it's happening.