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[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

FUCK WINRAR!

it's so stupid and amazing this recent celebration of people that are proud to have paid for it.

It was never a good solution really..

It just worked for what it was for a time... Because it was better than WinZip or pkzip.

7-zip has been amazing for years..

Better OS support would be cool too but it's so unnecessary thanks to 7zip.

[–] pascal@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FUCK WINRAR!

People on Lemmy sometimes get really angry at the dumbest things.

You don't like Winrar, that's your right, chill dude.

[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

WinRAR was great for the time and their policies on paying for the program were extremely generous. Time just overtook it.

It's essentially just shareware.

More specifically, it's nagware which wasn't particularly uncommon for the time WinRAR was introduced so I don't know that it's particularly generous really when one considers all the other nagware that came out in the late 90s.

It's just one of many different licensing strategies.

In this case it seems to have paid off for the developer as it appears to have resulted in a great deal of fondness and goodwill among a certain portion of the user base.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was never great.

Their "generous" pay if you want to remove this obnoxious message prompt aside...

It was temporarily useful until better alternatives arose... Which took virtually no time.

[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Back in the day WIndows didn't even have the capability to deal with ZIPs natively. Even if its time was brief (which I honestly don't remember, I think that it was useful for years, almost up to Vista's time) it was useful.

And I do think it generous that this paid software just let you use it after clicking a button with no time limit. Time gave us better options, but I think a lot of people look at WinRAR harsher than it deserves.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Most people already had WinZip for zip files before Windows had built in support and most people didn't ever really even deal with rar files.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This revisionist history is so wild I can only assume you are 16 years old and freshly playing on your first computer that you dont need to share

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol... You people and your condescension is what's fucking wild.

As if only a child could disagree with your stupid fucking opinions.

Get over yourself.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only a child wouldnt have lived through the history, and so doesnt know it.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're a fucking idiot.

People have different opinions.

I am 50 fucking years old and I'd be really surprised if you're older considering the immature shit you're spouting at me.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one -1 points 1 year ago

It was temporarily useful until better alternatives arose... Which took virtually no time.

This is just an inaccurate timeline of events, not a difference of opinion.

Im very sorry to hear you spent 40 years of your life in a coma, but Im glad youre up and walking now.

[–] aksdb@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

7z recently also had an exploit. It's not magically safer.

RAR compresses significantly faster than 7z (in relation to the compression ratio of course).

RAR has recovery records, 7z doesn't. RAR4 even had cryptographic signatures included. But RAR5 dropped that.

7z is nice, but it's not objectively better than RAR on every account.

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Your can create recovery records, par2, for zip archives

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It just worked for what it was for a time… Because it was better than WinZip or pkzip.

Yes this is why it is loved as a piece of software history.

I get you probably were a twinkle in your dad's eye in those days, but that doesn't mean people who were alive then should care less.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude... I'm 50 years old and have worked in the technology industry since 1997.

Which should be pretty obvious considering I mentioned fucking pkzip which was a DOS utility.

Give me a fucking break with the condescension.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then, frankly, it's weird that you said anything because you should know your history and, at 50, have enough of a grasp of how humanity functions to see why people are nostalgic.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Good grief.

You're insufferable.