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[–] AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I get what you are saying, but you could argue that google is pretty much a monopoly at this point, using their power trying to extract money from customers they could never do if their was any real competition with a similar number of channels and customers.

I think most users see google/youtube as a "the internet", or a utility as important as power, water and heat. And don't forget that google already requires users to "pay" for their services with data and ads in other services (maps, search, mail) as well.

[–] Demuniac@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So because they earn money somewhere else they should do something else for free? Why? What does Google owe us?

They only have the monopoly if we give it to them. I find their model fair, I use their service a lot. if they overprice me I'll find another form of entertainment.

But you are right, people see YouTube as a necessity at this point. I'm trying to remind you, it's not.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

YouTube is a lot more than just entertainment. Not trying to argue your overall point just pointing that out.

[–] Demuniac@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So because they earn money somewhere else they should do something else for free?

Obviously not, but there is nothing to stop Google from making Youtube a paid service and drop that charade about adblockers.

[–] Demuniac@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Google's main source of income is ads across the board, so fighting adblockers is certainly in their best interest

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

And users blocking all ads as long as Google is illegally tracking their online movement is in their best interest as well.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fine. But it need to fight by the rules.

It is not up to discussion: Youtube want to serve video to EU user ? They need to follow EU rules. If the rule says that adblocker detection technologies (or attempt) are illegal Youtube has no really a say in it.

[–] Demuniac@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hell yeah they should, I'm not disputing that, but there's so many here pretending like it's somehow unethical for Google to fight against ad blockers, and I am arguing that.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 1 points 1 year ago

It it not unethical what they are doing but how they are doing it. Not to mention against the law.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

But to be clear, that is not what the EU law being cited here says. It says something that may be interpreted as it. I hope that is how it gets interpreted. But that is not what it says.