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[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

If Americans knew what workers rights were they'd be very angry to realise they have none.

[–] Caradoc879@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most Americans still have their hears shoved so far up their asses that they think all of Europe is a freedomless third world region where the governments silence all criticism and doctors still use leeches or something. Just completely delusional and in denial.

Of course most Americans haven't even left their own state, never mind gone to Europe to experience it themselves.

[–] braxy29@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i mean... i would like to go to europe, but where on earth do i find the time off work and the money to do it?

that americans are not better traveled is not entirely the fault of their attitudes. it's easier for your average european to travel internationally for a number if reasons, both practical and systemic.

edit - for many americans, international travel is a privilege.

[–] Caradoc879@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're right, it is a great privilege. I've never left the U.S. either. But I'm also not a fucking dumbass MURICAMAN that thinks a $5000 bill for a broken arm and 3 sick days a year is something to be grateful for.

I'm able to see that my country is super fucked up and that mlst of Europe seem to do most things better.

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Most Americans still have their hears shoved so far up their asses that they think all of Europe is a freedomless third world region where the governments silence all criticism and doctors still use leeches or something. Just completely delusional and in denial.

do you actually believe this or are you just trolling

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

Its pretty hyperbolic, but I know people that aren't far from thinking this way.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

The literacy map in that article is really interesting. .

Looking around places I’ve lived, and frequent, Many were in the 60% for level 3 literacy (much higher than average). But the countries around them were often below average sub 40%. Cities seem to be an exception and seem to have very low level 3 numbers.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's exactly the argument I think it is. People are morons.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, we have worker's rights -- not enough, but you do have rights. Federal and state labor law covers a surprisingly broad number of topics.

Shitty employers want you to think you don't have rights, because they want to continue to illegally exploit you.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

https://www.fairwork.gov.au

Look up what you could have and tell me if it actually compares.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Like to have some more of those rights? Consider joining a union.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is because, so far, it’s up to the state’s to regulate, if they even do.

Ex: in Colorado, the minimum PTO is 48 hours per year.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is an American misapprehension. Even in your most worker friendly states you have extremely sub-par workers rights for a first world country.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it’s also a misunderstanding of how the US is governed and regulated. It’s setup more like Europe than people realize.

And yes, we’re fully aware of how much most of us are getting screwed on worker’s rights for time off. People in other countries don’t think we’re aware but we are. The question becomes, how do you fight for more rights? Our politicians absolutely suck. That’s the main issue. The two party system doesn’t work but we can’t agree what to do about it.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Strike, fight, bleed, die.

We have ours because us and our ancestors already fought and died against our oppressors to get them.

You have two choices, die for your overlords, or die for your rights.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s an option but it would have to be something so heinous, to push us to unite, I couldn’t fathom it. Nothing, so far, has pushed us to that point.

Think about how many mass shootings we’ve had and that still doesn’t unite us. The issue is more complex than our European friends understand.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yep. And that's the American value system. Having your entire population under the veritable yoke of slavery and that isn't enough to make you collectively revolt.

Civility breeds cowardice.