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Now that the old Hexbear fork has been officially abandoned, this community will be used as a space for meta-discussion on the site itself.

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

https://hexbear.net/post/913975 Defederate from Lemmygrad

Wasnt aware it was supposed to go here, what is the fediverse comm for?

[–] AlkaliMarxist@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I brought up my perspective in the other post and to be fair I don't really know how the defed process works but if this is a voting thing I vote against defederation.

I've seen lots of positive interactions with lemmygrad users, more than any other instance by far, and if defed from them we might as well just dump federation all together.

I vote to remain federated with Lemmygrad. If I have a chance I'll discuss why later.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

(I'm only posting here since the thread got locked. I don't actually want to defed from Lemmygrad at this time anyways.)

Them, a bunch of soyjaks: Nooooooo, we need to keep downvotes, how do we show displeasure at lib posts noooooo

Me, a gigachad: We should get rid of upvotes as well and retvrn to phpBB forums.

But seriously, that admin is full of shit and always had sus vibes to me. Upvotes and downvotes only came about in Web 2.0 social media sites and even then, it's mostly a Reddit thing. Old-school forums didn't have any of that bullshit. It's very obvious that upvotes/downvotes are used to drive up engagement (people get mad that the wrong thing got upvoted/downvoted) as well as provide a quantifiable metric that the algo, which purposely feeds people angry slop that further drives engagement, can use. So their nonsense of "getting rid of downvotes is lib" is just that, nonsense. The real lib move is to keep the upvote/downvote paradigm that was set up by a shitty social media corporation. Mao's Combat Liberalism, if they are so inclined to consider a shitty Reddit clone as a form of combating liberalism, stipulates that we're supposed to actually explain shit to people, not press a shitty downvote button.

Their grips about the evil Hexbearian somehow imposing their site culture on their instance is also nonsense. First of all, they (and the vast majority of Lemmy instances) don't have a unique site culture. They're just Reddit clones with the same shitty Reddit-derived semblance of site culture. Oh no, their genzedong-derived culture will have to change. How will they possibly cope. Second of all, a prominent Hexbear user advocating for good changes to make their instance less shitty isn't imposition. Have Hexbear admins threaten the Lemmygrad admins to defederate Hexbear from Lemmygrad? Did Hexbears do a brigardino^TM^ and mass upvoted your comments? No, we have not. The OP of that thread is a Lemmygrad user, as demonstrated by the numerous posts on Hexbear using a Lemmygrad account, so they can't accuse us of creating alts and trying to change their instance from within. And finally, getting rid of downvotes isn't even exclusively a Hexbear thing since the chasers over at blahaj had done so as well.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

should be unlocked now, so you can post it over there

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I already 100% supported this when you first brought it up, but i have to repeat this after having had another run-in with one of their usual mysogynist debatebro pigs earlier who was getting off about "dishonorable" sex workers on lemmy.ml. Fuck lemmygrad, it's become a reactionary shithole full of redditor brainrot. Fuck federation in its entirity, this thing has been a total shit show. Defederate from everything, i don't want this site to become micro reddit.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

cat-trans happen to have a link im compiling dumb shit

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's all deleted, but look up the modlogs for a user named CountryBreakfast. Make sure to check out his older deleted posts as well, his hornyposts may make it kinda doubtful that he's arguing this from the feminist perspective that he claims.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus. So self righteous about doing right by women but can't even bother to cw for people who have actually experienced violence.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, everything about that guy comes off as him just hating sex workers, not sex work. I mean, even moreso than your average SWERF, that guy doesn't even pretend to be some white liberal patronizing feminist like they do. If i would have had a different impression, i would have engaged with him in good faith, but not like that.

[–] Dickey_Butts@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Support whatever our trans comrades support 100-com

[–] GazaMarseyBomber@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

For a group that acts as "the Spectre that haunts Lemmy", some of you are really whiny. Maybe that's what I get for interacting with chapos 🤷‍♀️

Trans Lives Matter btw ;) 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️