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[-] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

The left side is unironically true

[-] Masimatutu@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My guy, all jobs are ultimately pointless if you look at it from the biggest perspective. The best that they can do is to make someone happier, which art does by adding meaning and beauty to people's lives.

Edit: additionally, we actually have enough for everyone, and most conventional jobs ultimately end up exploiting the shit out of nature and humanity for the benefit of the rich. Art is fine.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

says the guy emotionally moved by a piece of art.

You've never read a book, listened to music, watched a movie or TV show, you don't hang art on your walls and you never went to school?

You've been consuming art your whole life and, for a great many people, contributing to them paying their way.

Every ticket bought, every ad you watched, every game played: funding artists.

[-] ironhydroxide@partizle.com 9 points 10 months ago

"funding artists" is more like. "Giving artists barely enough to scrape by and the rest of the actual profits to the shareholders"

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

a fair point, but mostly solved by unions.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

No its not.

Being a try hard in this economy makes one a joke.

[-] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

With AI making advances, the role of the artist is being diminished little by little.

[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago

Look at this 40 000 year old cave painting. A looooong time ago, someone had the urge to leave their hand print in a cave. Why did they do that? We'll never know.

That person has been dead for thousands of years. We don't really know anything about them. But whenever I look at this picture, I'm reminded that this was made by a human who once walked on this same Earth, drank water, breathed air, ate animals and plants, just like you and I. It was made by a human with a beating heart, emotions, beliefs and opinions.

Can AI make impressive and beautiful things? Sure! But those things have very little value to me, because when I look at them, I can't think about the emotions and opinions the artist wanted to capture. I have molded pieces of clay into pots and painted them, just like my ancestors have done for thousands of years. A robot doesn't have ancestors.

To you, art is simply something nice to be consumed. To me, art is a mortal human's attempt to capture the vast greatness of the whole cosmos and leave a legacy that will survive the rise and fall of multiple civilisations and eras.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So are about half of the white collar office roles, so will about half of general warehouse labor with the robotics coming in, including multiple humanoid competitors.

When 30%+ unemployment is the new normal within the decade, will you still side with system of the gluttonous owners who tell us to fight to the death in tribute to their greed? Will you declare that a third of the population dying in the streets as just lazy and not the dwindling employed's problem?

Do you want to live in a society?

[-] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

For me, I would side with the employers and technological advancement. Reason being that I prefer not to be viewed as an old man scared of new things and being stuck in the past.

That and the fact that the future is always inevitable.

Society…

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

"Society…"

A group of people that willingly leave a sizeable portion of its members to die is the opposite of a society.

And technology is benign, and could be used for everyone's benefit when combined with taxation on automation and UBI, so that society could benefit from technological advancements, and not just the sociopathic capital hoarders.

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago

I would honestly say that the creation of art is more important than most current jobs in society.

Art is what I really live for, most of everything is either about survival, comfort, or convenience. Remember, most of the entertainment you consume is a form of art, from videogames, to tv shows, to youtube videos, to books, to drawings, to stories.

Without art, life would have much less meaning for me.

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