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[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] lexiw@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Breast milk is the only milk that can be vegan. It’s all about consent.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Risk@feddit.uk 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those plants didn't consent, so...

[–] Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.de 39 points 1 year ago

I can speak from experience that almonds are kinky little sluts and like to be milked.

[–] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those are not technically milk so...

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To which authority? Because I know the milk conglomerate has been staunchly fighting for that very definition.

The lack of consent is more viable as a disqualifier.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the main distinction is lactose. And/or the proteins that are present in milk.

While oat milk and consorts can be used in a lot of use cases it's not a one to one replacement and it's dishonest to claim it is.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Depends on the uses. Food Theory did a great video about this very thing, covering preferred taste, consistency, price, protein / fat content, and bake-ability: https://youtu.be/df8FRfVtVNw

Lactose is simply the kind of sugar/ starch in the milk.

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[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Euphemistic milks?

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which would mean there's the possibility of this new short horror story I just wrote:

I noticed two new options in the dairy aisle today: human breast milk, vegan and non-vegan.

[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So meat is vegan as long as the cows consent?

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Man, Hitchhiker's Guide really was ahead of its time.

[–] BachenBenno@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago

Technically yes. But of course they would (and can't really) do that. But you could also eat stuff like roadkill and it's vegan. Veganism as a moral philosophy has nothing to do with food, it's about respecting and granting animals the same rights as humans (as far as applicable, not stuff like voting).

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 19 points 1 year ago

Yes, and vegans can also be cannibals for this same reason, as long as the person consents.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It all depends on if you consider yourself an animal, which, technically, we are.

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 15 points 1 year ago

I'm more animal than most

[–] coffinwood@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only if you define vegan as to strictly avoid any animal product (and define humans as animals). A somewhat looser Definition says to avoid animal exploitation.

So a product made by a non-domesticised animal in a natural way - e.g. Penguin guano - could be seen as vegan. The animal produces it anyway and the product isn't won through keeping the animal captive and / or "stealing" from it.

After all I wouldn't be too strict with definitions here.

[–] evilgiraffe666@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most honey wouldn't be vegan but perhaps an abandoned hive could be harvested. Or infertile eggs from an abandoned nest? Bits of sheep's wool collected from a spiky bush?

[–] door_in_the_face@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah sure. Maybe you could make the argument that humans should leave stuff like that for other scavengers who need the nutrients to survive, and instead opt for plant foods. But at those edge scenarios you would then also have to take into account the impact that plant agriculture has on wildlife. It's quite possible that scavenging and gathering is the most vegan option, but seeing how it's neither viable for a lot of people nor something that often comes up in daily life, it's easier to just generalize vegan food as plant based.

[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You can drink from a well as that just gets water straight from the ground. Which well would be full of breast milk though?