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When your government refuses to negotiate for viable peace then ramps up hostilities by invading and murdering hundreds of innocent civilians
"Why can't we have peace?"
Guess it's a mystery.
Right. That’s the problem. Not a 75 year occupation, genocide and apartheid. Sure.
You can't really say it's "their government" when the Palestinians in Gaza haven't had free and fair elections in years. Hamas has fucked the civilians in both Israel and Gaza. Civilians of either country who don't support the aggressive actions of "their side" (countinued settlement, terrorism) shouldn't be suffering as a result.
Many people live under governments that are not democracies, those are still their governments. Last time Gaza did have free elections, they elected Hamas.
They sure have.
And yet that's predictably what always happens in war. I'm sure that there were many innocent civilians who opposed Nazi policies in Germany, yet still shared consequences of the regime that they lived under.
What year did that happen, again?
And the average Gaza citizen is how old, you say?
Exactly how long does it have to be since a fair election has taken place for you to say that holding children accountable for their parents’ vote is unconscionable?
I love that now when it's against Palestinian everyone is saying "is it right to blame the child for their parents' aggression?"
While for years that very same argument wasn't heard for Israelis when Palestinians yelled "from the river to the sea" and did an Intifada... Back then the left was focusing on "give them back the 48 land!"
Makes you wonder huh.
Wow yeah the population of Gaza that is nearly 50% children sounds extremely responsible for that.
Is Israel responsible for the demography of Gaza? Should these children be considered an effective shield for Hamas, behind which they can launch attacks on civilians with impunity?
It seems to me the ones most responsible for putting children at risk are the parents who decided to have lots of them while penned in in a war zone run by belligerent terrorists, but I suspect you don't want to hear that. You seem pretty committed to blaming Israel for the miserable situation Gazans have created for themselves, the inevitable and predictable result of repeatedly choosing violence every time despite this conflict being unwinnable militarily.
You didn't read a word I typed? Again, blaming the children for that situation is just as effective as blaming Israelis for existing in their own state, on which they were born and raised. (Something that all Palestinian leaders are blaming every Israeli for, and are teaching their people to hate those same children who were just born there).
And those same people, who were born and raised in their own country, didn't do anything to get the wrath of Hamas, yet here we are.
Honestly if killing Palestinian civilians and medical staff and journalists is justifying because of the Hamas attack, doesn't that also mean the Hamas aerracks are justified against cilivlians because of Israel's long list of apartheid and war crimes?
The answer is no to both. Nothing justifies this.
This false equivalency only makes sense if you ignore the difference between intentionally targeting civilians and collateral damage.
The former is what Israel does, according to every human rights group and country expept for Israel and a few of its allleies that happen to have genocide of a native nation as part of their history.
Call Israel out on its genocidal bullshit.
Every human rights group says Israel intentionally targets civilians? You don't think even one exists that disagrees or takes no position on the matter? Absurd.
As for countries that support Israel:
All of them have genocide of a native nation as a part of their history, (and the nations that oppose Israel don't?) Please. Your obvious bias is showing.
The party explicitly advocating for genocide in this conflict is Hamas, not Israel. Self-defense is not genocide.
Every human rights org that matters, and that Israel hates because they call out their crimes. A lot of them run by Jewish pro-Palestinians and anti-Zionists.
Pointing to Hamas (whom everyone already condemned) is a really cheap way to avert people's attention from the thousands of dead bodies in Gaza.
Read that list of countries again. US, UK, Australia, France, certainly no one there invaded a native nation or occupied a county that wasn't theirs lol
Yeah! Just like the Warsaw Uprising of 1943 was a complete mystery! Why wouldn't those ungrateful Jewish people just accept the wondrous peace the Nazis was offering them, eh? It's a travesty, I tell you!
(/s - for the people on here that arent rabid white supremacists like the one I'm responding to)