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The point I'm making is that they're independent territories not owned by China. China continues to censor and murder in attempts to gain more territory. Taiwan is still a sovereign country. Claiming it's not is just factually wrong.
Neither Hong Kong nor Taiwan are independent states. The UN only recognizes one China which is the PRC and Taiwan is part of it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_2758
It looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, quacks like a duck... Well it might be a duck.
I understand definitions are incredibly important for both US and China. According to US and Taiwan, it's a sovereign country. According to China and UN, it's part of China. I would be willing to concede at "It's complicated."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Taiwan
I think the Taiwan Strait is further evidence of the "It's complicated" argument.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Strait
According to both the US government and the authorities on Taiwan, Taiwan is a part of China.
The illegitimate regime in Taipei by its own constitution still claims itself to be the legitimate government of all of China. No one recognizes Taiwan as an independent state.
The US officially recognizes the One China Policy. This is the fundamental basis for any diplomatic relations with China. There is no "Taiwan embassy" in the US. The US constantly affirms to China that it does not support "Taiwan independence".
(Also, it doesn't matter what the US thinks about this anyway, the only opinion that matters is that of the Chinese people, including but not limited to the people in China's province of Taiwan)
There is nothing complicated about this. The Taiwan issue is an internal matter for China to resolve. Outside forces have no right to interfere.
Also, i like how you backed off from your claim that Hong Kong is an independent country. Do you admit your ignorance on this issue or are you just trying to sweep an embarrassing mistake under the rug?
By my count you have yet to acknowledge you were either ignorant or lying when you claimed the following things:
Are you going to admit you were mistaken or will you try to pretend you never said these things after being proven wrong?