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[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"Life is worth fighting for. As a grandparent of eight, the life of a baby is always worth the fight," Huffman said. "The national abortion industry funded by wealthy out-of-state special interests spent millions to pass this radical language that goes far past abortion on demand. This isn't the end. It is really just the beginning of a revolving door of ballot campaigns to repeal or replace Issue 1."

Interesting how "people disagree with me" never even enters their fucking consciousness. These people won't give up until they die and someone else takes over. May that day come sooner than later.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it's important to understand that to many of these people, it's deeply religious. They believe that they are doing God's work, and if they compromise on issues they believe are facilitated in scripture, they might end up in hell. So they choose martyrdom over cooperation. They'll gladly sacrifice democracy if they feel like democracy is going against their interpretation of God's word.

It's the same reason peace in the Middle East is so difficult and seemingly unattainable. No one budges on their religion.

[–] Veraxus@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The wild thing is that scripture supports abortion and even demands it in some cases. These people don't know their own scripture and they don't care about scripture... they care about what the loud, dramatic white man told them on stage last Sunday. Nothing more, nothing less.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

That's why I specifically said "their interpretation" of scripture. It doesn't really matter how other people interpret scripture. Politics among evangelical Christians is very much a "my way or the highway" kind of ideology.

Someone should remind them of separation of Church and State. If the US was supposed to be controlled by these peoples religious views the founding fathers would have put the Church in charge. I feel like we need some new legislation against these religious extremists from being eligible to run for an office if they can't follow the rules. The second they go off on a "God wants..." tangent we should say "thank you for your service, you are relieved of duty" and we have another election.

[–] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

So many dogwhistles in that screed. "abortion industry","Wealthy", "out-of-state", "special interests", "radical", "abortion on demand".

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with them that babies' lives are worth fighting for. The problem is, I don't agree that a fetus is a baby. Alive? Sure, insomuch as a parasite is alive or cancer is alive. That we often colloquially call a fetus a baby doesn't magically make it one.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These people don't want to protect babies. Let's be clear about that. If they did, snap benefits would be expanded to all children.

Abortion is about control and punishing women. When you get away from the rhetoric, it comes down to slut shaming women for having sex.

They don't actually care if babies are saved. They only care that women are punished.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago

If they did, snap benefits would be expanded to all children.

And schools would have effective sex education. And birth control would be free or subsidized by the States.

But I totally agree. "Children" are only a tool to scare well-meaning people into thinking there's a problem where there is none.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand how they think that way. Most Ohioans just support abortion but don’t shout it. And there’s a ton of people shouting opposition

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The world would be a whole lot better if conservatives learned that not everyone has to make their ideology their identity.