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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Stamets@lemmy.world to c/rpgmemes@ttrpg.network
 

I gotta say... the bunch of you whining about this fake are infinitely more annoying than it ever could be by being fake.

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[–] treesquid@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago (5 children)

A dagger does d4 damage. A dagger is not a small knife, it's like 8 inches of blade. Compared to that, a human bite should be like a d2 on the high side.

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The stronger muscles of a human body is the one of their jaw. A bite can do serious damage. And when you dagger will cut or stab, your bite will ripe away skin and flesh.

[–] JoshuaSlowpoke777@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus, human bites can carry a lot of bacteria and whatnot, so arguably some of that damage should be poison or necrosis damage.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

You sound like someone who hasn't been bit.

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Honestly it's all an abstraction anyway but I absolutely would not bring my chompers to a knife fight.

[–] Waffles@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's more about range though, isn't it?

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure, I think the stabber will do more harm per second than the chomper.

[–] dragonshouter@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you bite an artery even a human can kill something. You can bite of a finger if you want to. The problem is people only think of biting in " I chomp and then I let go" instead of " I bite and do not let go but pull bake so I tear that chunk of the person off".

[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have fun getting to that artery. If someone is not holding still for you it's extremely lucky to do that.

Especially while getting stabbed.

[–] Gwimdor@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago
[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What are you going to do? Leave them at the inn? You can absolutely bring them with you and use them as the opportunity arises. Just because it's a knife fight and you have a knife doesn't mean you can only use the knife...

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

That's very true, although I'd love to play the kind of character who pulls their teeth out when they don't think they'll be needing them.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The thing with human mouths, though, is that they're gross. A dagger will fuck you up, but a mouth may hurt at the time, and then later it's ✨BACTERIA TIME✨. I think maybe they can get a little bonus for that.

[–] BeanGoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

+1 toxic damage.

[–] Archpawn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So what you're saying is that if I want to poison my dagger, all I have to do is lick it?

[–] driving_crooner 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How much is a bite attack from a dog or a wolf? A human bite would be at most half the bite of a dog.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] driving_crooner 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A human bite should be 1d4-2 then imo

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

2d4+2 average damage is (2+8)/2 + 2 = 7 damage

You say a human bite should be at most half that

1d4 - 2 is an average of (1+4)/2 - 2= 0.5 damage

Isn't that way too low?

[–] driving_crooner 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2d4+2 is the bite attack of a wolf, not a dog, a dog bite is way lower that the one of a wolf. Also, I guess I could have wrote better my proposed human bite damage as max(1d4-2, 0) that gives a average of 0.75.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t think 7 vs 0.75 is accurate. A single wolf bite would fuck you up, to be sure. But this implies that a human bite is about as dangerous as a mousetrap… which, let’s be honest, is virtually nothing. Humans are capable of biting through not only skin and muscle, but to the bone, and even through the bone in certain cases.

And that is the bite of a commoner, you think a lvl 20 barbarians bite wouldn’t go straight through most bone?

[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 6 points 1 year ago

meanwhile monks are out here dropping d10 dragontail kicks to the chest

[–] ClockNimble@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Average peasant has 4 hp. Max average strike of a dagger does 4 damage. Even if it doesn't strike a vital area, if you get a full, solid, clean hit with that blade, they dead.

If you crit, i.e. hit a vital spot. They definitely dead and the 8inch blade might even take out a tougher boy.

Damage is supposed to imply how effective the strike is on a hit. A 1 is a decent slice or puncture. Possible stitches, not guaranteed. 2 damage? That's a good shank. Stitches recommended, gonna need some medical attention, picture getting stabbed in the hand or getting a slice across the arm or leg. 3 damage? That person is WOUNDED they won't keep fighting if it isn't life or death picture a meaty stab to the bicep or shoulder or side, nowhere critical, but you know you can't take another hit. And 4 is death.