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If you've got the big monies and like gamified learning go with Pimsleur over Duolingo. For any language but especially learning Asian languages as an English speaker. Duolingo is shit at them. Over 4 months of daily usage for Japanese, while living full time in Japan, and it's still quizzing me on teriyaki and sushi. Did a single free Pimsleur lesson and learned more actual conversation and grammar than I've gotten in Duolingo this year.
Or 🏴☠️ the older workbooks and audio lessons instead of the app. It was originally a CIA program so it's not like American money didn't already pay for it. Their Spanish ones were quite good
In that vein, there's always the old FSI courses. Designed to get US diplomats fluent as fast as possible. People say good things about them. It's all audio, though, I think. So it depends what you like. Not sure if there's a Japanese course.
To be fair, listening is probably the most important part of learning a foreign language (for most learners) and perhaps requires the most time to develop. In every day life, listening and thus conversation/exchanges requires instant comprehension, and that's also a huge part of how we form social connections/associations with each other. With reading you can generally take your time to digest things.
Strongly agree. The accent has to be just right for me, though. Otherwise I can't put my ears through it. That's why I like listening-reading. I go by content and accent, and get 7–35+ hours with a voice that I can listen endlessly to.
Agreed, Duolingo might help with absolute basics, but it's not great for Japanese. For Japanese kanji, I'd recommend an SRS like WaniKani (or an Anki deck if you don't have the big monies).