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[–] aaro@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I vote, since I'm usually living in a blue state I vote green or PSL to build momentum outside of the uniparty. Probably pretty controversial, but if I were in a swing state I'd probably vote blue, in my mind Israel and Ukraine would probably look fairly similar under Trump, Israel would probably be a bit worse and Ukraine might be a bit better. Taiwan would likely be a fair bit worse under Trump. (1, 2 articles are kinda libbed up but contain an accurate cataloging of events).

To me, both of them, their cabinets, and their families all would get [redacted] in the town square under any just political system, but foreign policy between them is a wash and project 2025 sounds a little worse than not project 2025, so I'll take the five minutes a year* it takes to bubble in free damage control and use the rest of my political energy on building the left. (*I live in a state with absentee ballots allowed, if I had to go vote in person I'd probably still do it if I could vote early and avoid waiting in line for several hours)

As for local, hell yeah i-voted, we had a police abolitionist win a city council seat by less than 500 votes against a chud. They are now in charge of a several million dollar city budget. Sign me the fuck up for as much of that as possible.

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

South America is worse under trump too

[–] aaro@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right? Biden is a fucking stinker but he probably wouldn't want a ground war with Mexico

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

yeah and Trump added like 30+ sanctions to Venezuela

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

archive is either down rn or the link you sent is broken btw

[–] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thing is though, liberal opposition would be much higher. March on DC may have been twice the size under Trump. Not saying anything balances, but there is that aspect to consider under a Trump presidency too

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sort of, yeah, but not really when it comes to stuff about countries that aren't a hot topic. Mexico - the libs might say something because to be pro-mexican is to be anti trump. Maybe there'd be more opposition if Trump was in power on certain issues, but at the same time the 'opposition' they show is usually meaningless and disappears once the Dems get back in power, and pivot to a new voter issue to consolidate power.

But in deeper South America, Bolivia, Venezuela, Chile, and so on, libs couldn't care less. They've never cared about what goes on in the periphery. The media will put out a bunch of op-eds about why the next left wing candidate is actually one of the bad guys, and the libs will follow suit.