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[-] w3dd1e@lemm.ee -2 points 10 months ago

Idk. It’s a little bit of both right? I mean if you go see Pride and Prejudice because you want to see some epic fight scenes, you’re going to be disappointed.

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Nah that seems like more of a strawman or moving the goalposts than anything remotely reflective of the actual situation.

Nobody is criticizing this movie because they went into it expecting an oscar-bait period romantic drama. Nobody.

Literally every single person knew what the movie was supposed to be: a superhero movie. An action/adventure movie with excitement, a few mild scares, some laughs, explosions, fights, etc. Sure, within the genre there can be "light-hearted, mostly comedy romp" and "dark, gritty, shades of grey" tones of film within it, but zero people are walking into this one expecting Pride and Prejudice, and it's silly at best to suggest otherwise.

So when we're talking about expectations, we're not talking about the overall genre or tone expectations, we're talking about expectations as to how well executed, well acted, well written, and well thought out the various elements were.

So yeah, when people say they found it disappointing, not being up to their expectations, they mean as a superhero movie. Further, given the steady diet they've been fed of the same, they mean, specifically, "up to the expectation set by many, many other similar films in the genre, in the same umbrella IP, from the same studio, released in the same broad time period.

It really doesn't get a whole lot more apples-to-apples than expectations for a Disney/Marvel superhero movie in the 2020s.

So no, sorry, I can't buy the angle that "if the film didn't meet your expectations, it's your unreasonable expectations that are to blame because you didn't know what kind of movie it was supposed to be".

Further, even if that were the case, that wouldn't be so much lowering expectations as changing them. So when we see people specifically use the word "lower", it suggests that's not what they're thinking at all.

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