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Preclassic-Classic Zapotec Civilization

The Zapotecs, known as the 'Cloud People', live in the southern highlands of central Mesoamerica, specifically, in the Valley of Oaxaca, which they inhabited from the late Preclassic period to the end of the Classic period (500 BCE - 900 CE). Their capital was first at Monte Albán and then at Mitla, they dominated the southern highlands, spoke a variation of the Oto-Zapotecan language, and profited from trade and cultural links with the Olmec, Teotihuacan and Maya civilizations.

The Zapotecs grew from the agricultural communities which grew up in the valleys in and around Oaxaca. In the Preclassic period they established fruitful trade links with the Olmec civilization on the Gulf Coast which allowed for the construction of an impressive capital site at Monte Albán and for the Zapotec to dominate the region during the Classic period.

By the late Preclassic period Zapotec cities show a high level of sophistication in architecture, the arts, writing and engineering projects such as irrigation systems. For example, at Hierve el Agua there are artificially terraced hillsides irrigated by extensive canals fed by natural springs. Evidence of contact with other Mesoamerican cultures can be seen, for example, at the site of Dainzu, which has a large stone-faced platform with reliefs showing players of the familiar Mesoamerican ball game wearing protective headgear. We also know of very close relations between the Zapotec and the peoples based at Teotihuacan in the Basin of Mexico. Indeed, at Teotihuacan there was even a quarter of the city specifically reserved for the Zapotec community.

Decline

Quite why the city and the Zapotec civilization collapsed at Monte Albán is not known, only that there is no trace of violent destruction and that it was contemporary with the demise of Teotihuacan and a general increase in inter-state conflict. The site continued to be significant, though, as it was adopted by the later Mixtec as a sacred site and place of burial for their own kings. The Zapotecs did not disappear completely, however, for in the early Post-Classic period they established a new, smaller centre at Mitla, known to them as Lyobaa or 'Place of Rest' which also had many fine buildings including the celebrated Hall of the Columns. The site continued to be occupied even up to the Spanish conquest.

Languages

Zapotec is an extensive language family indigenous to southern Mexico, which belongs to the larger Otomanguean family. Today, there are over 50 different Zapotec languages most of which are endangered. They are spoken primarily in the state of Oaxaca, Mexico, by a total of approximately 425,000 people within a much larger Zapotec ethnic community. Due to emmigration, there are now Zapotec speakers in many other parts of Mexico and the United States. Dialectal divergence between Zapotec-speaking communities is extensive and complicated. Many varieties of Zapotec are mutually unintelligible with one another. The Zapotec language family is on par with the Romance language family in terms of time depth and diversity of member languages.

Modern day

The population is concentrated in the southern state of Oaxaca, but Zapotec communities also exist in neighboring states. The present-day population is estimated at approximately 400,000 to 650,000 persons, many of whom are monolingual in one of the native Zapotec languages and dialects.

The Zapotec population is divided into four geographic areas, each with its own cultural differences: 1) Central Valleys; 2) Sierra Norte; 3) Sierra Sur; and the 4) Isthmus of Tehuantepec. The geographic isolation of these populations, caused by centuries of conquest and colonization, has resulted in very significant linguistic diversity within the population, so much that often one town adjacent to another says or writes the same words and expressions differently.

The Zapotec of the Sierra Juárez, as countrymen of Benito Juárez, were very much involved in the Reform Movement of 1860, some in defense of liberal ideas, while others interested in conserving church traditions. They were also involved in the Mexican Revolution, forming the first textile and mining labor unions.

Beginning in 1872, there was a revival in the exploitation of gold and silver in the region that attracted mestizos and accelerated the process of language replacement. Between 1900 and 1940, the mining frontier in the District of Ixtlán included Ixtlán, Guelatao, and many other communities. Spanish became the language of instruction for the indigenous young receiving education.

Mining brought wealth to some of the native people, but caused the depletion of the mineral resources and the environmental destruction of the natural environment by the removal of forests for firewood and the contamination of rivers with toxic wastes.

Since the end of the 19th century the cultivation of coffee brought further capitalization to the Zapotec and mestizo communities.

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[–] Moss@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hello if anyone wants to give me advice about a social situation I would appreciate it.

My friend is mad with me because she texted me two days ago telling me that someone insulted her and she was crying about it and I didn't reply to her. I know she gets upset easily but I didn't reply because I just had no idea what to say to her anymore. She always comes to me with her problems and always ignores my advice, so I feel like she's just dumping a lot of responsibility to help her at all times. I've stayed up for hours in the middle of the night to call her when she was upset, and I feel like she expects me to always be able to drop everything to talk to her. I like being her friend but sometimes I just get exhausted being her therapist. Is that bad of me? I know it was shitty of me to ignore her but I just didn't have it in me, I was in a terrible place myself mentally at the time and I wasn't able to help her.

Am I making too many excuses for not being a better friend? I know the answer is clear communication and I have been doing that but she's generally unresponsive to that and deletes her messages before I can see them. I don't know what to do anymore

[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hard to say much without knowing the entire situation but...

  • If she doesn't listen to advice, stop giving it. She may just want someone to rant to and views you as safe. Listen and affirm feelings, say things that narrate their experience, e.g., "I'm sorry, that must be very hard, that sucks, etc"
  • If she expects you to always be available and gets upset at you when you are not available and then guilts you about it later (if I understand you correctly), that does not sound like a healthy friendship.
  • You can always say "Sorry, I was not in a good place on Saturday. How are you feeling today?" I think healthy friendships will completely understand. If she guilts you about that, start thinking about putting some boundaries up.
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

No, that legit sounds like a lot to handle. Being a good friend is important, but at some point you're putting in so much time that you're getting hurt.

[–] GayTuckerCarlson@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

live-tucker-reaction

This is too much text for me to read, get back to me when I'm sober (never)

Your friend is gay and you are a loser

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I get that this is a bit but I think it's a bit much for this context.

[–] milistanaccount09@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I was talking with my roommate yesterday about something similar: the question of whether you're supporting her as something you want to do or as a responsibility. It sounds like she wants it to be a responsibility, something you have to do, but it's pretty clear that that's something you neither want to nor are able to do. Really this might just be set dressing for me to say that you're 100% justified. It's super important in a relationship to be able to say "nope, I can't help you with this right now" when you need to.

she's generally unresponsive to [clear communication] and deletes her messages before I can see them

This is a pretty huge obstacle to having a healthy relationship and she isn't delivering. I think I would try to say something that's clearly just "I can't be there for you 100% of the time, and this is something we need to be able to work around." I think you've been a fantastic friend for this person and been there for her a lot of the times when it would be really difficult for other people. She needs to be able to understand that your support for her has its limits.