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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Palestinians and Israelis are for the most part good people, Hamas and Israel (the State) are both bad guys. With Israel's reaction more and more Palestinians will join Hamas (just like killing hundreds of thousands in the middle East didn't solve anything after 3000 Americans died on 9/11 and it even made things worse) and the more people join Hamas and attack Israelis, the more of them are ready to join Israel's army.

In the end no one wins.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except all Israelis have to serve in the IDF or they face jail time. The only Jews in Israel that don't have to serve are the ultra orthodox Jews who are the ones that are the most devout Zionists. The situation over there is extraordinarily fucked.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They have their mandatory military service but as far as I know there's no ~~conscription~~ draft at the moment (but I might be mistaken on that).

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mandatory military service = Conscription

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

~~No, one is required service for a set amount of time no matter if the country is at peace or at war, the other is when people that aren't in service get called to take part in a war effort.~~

Turns out in English I should have used "draft" instead

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're all good english is fuckey

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I know the word exists in both French and English and I expected it to have the same meaning, in French if you're talking about a conscription people would definitely know you're talking about war time.

[–] Metatronz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Window dressing distraction from Ukraine anyway. Seems to be working.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Well, both conflicts are atrocious and deserve attention, but yes all the attention is on Palestine instead of being split between the two and that's an issue!