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[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Of course they are running military actions from al-Shifa. They did in 2007, why would they have stopped it?

https://www.hrw.org/news/2007/06/12/gaza-armed-palestinian-groups-commit-grave-crimes

They also fired all non-Hamas doctors in al-Shifa around 2007 after they won their fight against Fatah.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2048866/

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neither of those articles say that, and in fact your first article mentions Hamas firing on the hospital, not firing from.

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not true. That's not what the article says.

Fatah gunmen began firing mortars and rocket-propelled grenades at Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, drawing Hamas fire from inside the building, killing one Hamas and one Fatah fighter.

According to the article, Fatah was firing on the hospital and Hamas was firing from the hospital.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“These attacks by both Hamas and Fatah constitute brutal assaults on the most fundamental humanitarian principles,”

It says both. They fired at hamas, hamas fled to a safe zone and the Fatah fired on the hospital.... And hamas returned fire.

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, they returned fire from the hospital.

EDIT: the part you quoted doesn't say who was firing from where.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aside from third party articles that dispute most if not all of the claims therein specifically the doctors and nurses they reference are a. Not known to be workers there, b. At least one of those doctors was under isreali detention only to be executed later.

If you choose to believe that by all means do but don't expect everyone else to.

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can't independently verify if the source is accurate since I wasn't on the ground in Gaza when this happened. I'm just telling you what the article said. I don't think it's a good practice to lie to people about the claims that sources make.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fun fact neither was the author, it's taken from Israeli reports.

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't have to believe Israeli reports to accurately interpret what an article says.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you know more than what is included in the article you can infer things from that as well, you know being well read on the subject your providing sources for is on you not me.

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't providing a source. I was telling you that your interpretation of the words in the article (that we both read) was not accurate. It makes more sense for you to counter that other person with a different article than to claim it says something that it didn't. Maybe I'm wording this in a bizarre way.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ok thought experiment, what humanitarian issue do you think they were talking about.