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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (97 children)

So? Don’t bomb babies. This isn’t hard

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[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I keep seeing both Israel and the US say they have evidence but neither of them seem to be able or willing to show such evidence.

That by itself should make every single person concerned, because if they actually had evidence, they would put it right out there for everyone to see. What do they gain by hiding it?

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[–] UnspecificGravity@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Good thing Biden is here to be the spokesperson for Israel for some reason. Show us the evidence or fuck off, and stop buying bullets to kill children while you're at it.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

The article shows the admin literally saying this doesn't justify bombing it and they don't want to see firefights in it.

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[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ok that's great. Where's the evidence that's going to convince me it's OK to bomb a hospital full of sick and wounded because of what Hamas is doing in their vicinity?

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"To be clear, we do not support striking a hospital from the air. We do not want to see a firefight in a hospital where innocent people, helpless people, sick people are simply trying to get the medical care they deserve," he said.

I don't think they're trying to.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, I guess my answer was want clear, they are not trying to give you evidence that convinces you it's okay to bomb a hospital. They explicitly say it doesn't justify it.

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Either show us or shut up. The White House also had evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. We all know how that turned out.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Well then show us the evidence. And not videos of random calendars-I mean guard shift lists.

[–] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Cool, so they're gonna show us.. and the evidence for bombing refugee camps, and the those for bombing trucks bringing aids, they must have enough evidence to keep us busy for a couple of months with what Israel did the last month.. otherwise they can fuck right off.

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[–] coffee_poops@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

I DON'T CARE.

THEY COULD HAVE THE FUCKING GHOST OF OSAMA BIN LADEN IN THERE AND I WOULDN'T CARE!

IT'S A HOSPITAL.

[–] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Even if that's true - which I doubt - it doesn't excuse bombing the hospital.

[–] Metatronz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Man, wish everyone had been this fired up over Ukraine.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Of course they are running military actions from al-Shifa. They did in 2007, why would they have stopped it?

https://www.hrw.org/news/2007/06/12/gaza-armed-palestinian-groups-commit-grave-crimes

They also fired all non-Hamas doctors in al-Shifa around 2007 after they won their fight against Fatah.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2048866/

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Neither of those articles say that, and in fact your first article mentions Hamas firing on the hospital, not firing from.

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE, Nov 14 (Reuters) - The White House on Tuesday said it had its own intelligence that Hamas was using Gaza's largest hospital Al Shifa to run its military operations, and probably to store weapons, saying those actions constituted a war crime.

"We have information that confirms that Hamas is using that particular hospital for a command and control mode" and probably to store weapons, national security spokesperson John Kirby told reporters aboard Air Force One.

He said the United States had information that Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad were using some hospitals in the Gaza Strip, including Al Shifa, to conceal or support their military operations and to hold hostages.

"We have been clear on multiple occasions - Hamas actions do not lessen Israel's responsibilities to protect civilians in Gaza, and this is something we're going to continue to have an active conversation with our counterparts about," he added.

Israeli forces have surrounded Gaza City's Al Shifa hospital, the biggest in the enclave, which they say sits atop an underground headquarters of Hamas militants.

Hamas, Gaza's ruling Islamist group, denies fighters are present and says 650 patients and 5,000-7,000 other civilians are trapped inside the hospital grounds, under constant fire from snipers and drones.


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