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"Nothing Chats, powered by Sunbird, allows you to directly message other phone users from your Nothing phone via blue bubbles."

I don't think this solves the problem, but it is a step in the right direction.

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[–] GameWarrior@discuss.online 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recommend getting beeper it's similar to sunbird although it is paid but they do open source all of their back end infrastructure. Beeper is essentially just a matrix client for a bunch of different chat service bridges.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Cheers for the heads up.

beeper does look interesting but I am weary of sign up and we will tell you when you can join type apps.

And this rings a few alarm bells for me:

if you send a message from Beeper to a friend on WhatsApp, the message is encrypted on your Beeper client, sent to the Beeper web service, which decrypts and re-encrypts the message with WhatsApp's proprietary encryption protocol.

I would love for this to work but that alone has a host of issues around third party trust.

New European legislation is coming into effect in 2024 and will force iMessage and WhatsApp to expose an interoperable end-to-end-encrypted API. Our servers are located in Europe, and we will switch to this open interface as soon as it is ready.

Sadly, not being in the EU means I will likely pass on this but is sounds great for EU residents when the above is implemented.

[–] GameWarrior@discuss.online 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair enough. Although if you are interested all of their messaging bridges are available on their GitHub if you would like to self host them with your own matrix server. That way you don't have to worry about them decrypting and reencrypting your messages.

[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago
[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 2 points 1 year ago

I made a video about why this has to work like this and what you can do to prevent it but still have all the benefits:

https://tube.jeena.net/w/rYhp4ZT5Ykw1aBGqMr62KG