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[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago

Uh Palestinians are not fucking indigenous.

Palestine only became an idea after the Muslim conquest of the levant in the late 600s CE, when the Arabs went on their own genocide across the entire Middle East conquering everything and raping and killing everyone in sight.

If you want to talk about indigenous, then you’d have to go back to the Israelites around 3200 years ago, or the Philistines before them.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I mean it's the fertile crescent. It's been likely that it's been being recolonized for hundreds of thousands of years. Not really any other landroutes out of Africa.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago

Which means that nobody there is indigenous. The actual indigenous peoples have been genocided over millennia.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Or that many groups have indigenous claims to the area.

For example, pacific islanders didnt' get to many islands till the 900-1100 time period. We'd still call them indigenous peoples of those places.

More than one thing can be true at the same time.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago

We call them indigenous because they were the first ones there…

Palestinians were not. They killed the people who were there and took it.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I think they still qualify as having an indigenous claim.

[-] palal@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Indigenous people having rights is a rather modern concept in terms of human history.

[-] Jilanico@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

"Like in other 'Arabized' Arab nations, the Arab identity of Palestinians, largely based on linguistic and cultural affiliation, is independent of the existence of any actual Arabian origins."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians

Please realize there are lots of Palestinian Christians. They identify as Palestinians.

TL;DR Palestinian lineage doesn't come from Saudi Arabia.

[-] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago

Umm, hate to break it to you but the actual word Palestinian is derived from the Hebrew word for Philistines. You couldn't be more wrong in everything that you wrote.

Both Jews and Arabs from that area share a common ancestry (as proven by DNA testing).

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