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Just some off the top of my head: Destiny, Deep Rock Galactic, Overwatch, and most recently Baldur's Gate.

I received BG3 as a gift. I installed and loaded up the game and the first thing I was prompted to do is to create a character. There are like 12 different classes with 14 different abilities and 10 ability classes. The game does not explain any of this. I went to watch a tutorial online to try and wrap my head around all of this. The first tutorial just assumed you knew a bunch of stuff already. The second one I found was great but it was 1.5 hours long. There is no in-game tutorial I could find.

I just get very bored very quickly of analyzing character traits and I absolutely loathe inventory management (looking at you Borderlands). Often times my inventory fills up and then I end up just selling stuff that I have no idea what it does and later realizing it's an incredibly valuable item/resource and now I have to find more.

So my question is this: Do you guys really spend hours of your day just researching on the internet how to play these games? Or do you just jump in and wing it? Or does each game just build on top of working knowledge of previous similar games?

E: General consensus seems to be all of the above. Good to know!

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[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't Baldur's Gate 3 just DnD, so thats easy as I already have that knowledge. All the others don't seem that complex.

Deep Rock is Shoot Stuff, mine, don't die

Overwatch is only complex when you get past the early learning and pissing around and start learning characters and trying to counter pick. Which you don't need to do to have fun.

Destiny I don't remember much of. I guess it had some more complex movement and stats so that one might be more complex.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't Baldur's Gate 3 just DnD

I guess so? Never played DnD in my life and didn't realize that.

Overwatch is only complex when you get past the early learning and pissing around and start learning characters and trying to counter pick. Which you don't need to do to have fun.

Just feel like I'm gonna get my ass kicked by all the people who understand all the mechanics instead of just fucking around in-game. Would just be nice if they included the necessary info in the game instead of making you search it up online.

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BG3 uses D&D fifth edition rules, and the game is set in the Forgotten Realms, which is the official setting for D&D right now. That being said, that can be a lot to get into, and the BG3 tutorial is trash. For character creation you might just want to pick one of the origin characters. Creating a custom character can take a good long while, even if you know the rules already. The origin characters have most of the basic classes covered and will give you a feel for the game. If you want to change it up, there is a way to change your class and stats partway through act 1. That will at least get you in the game and playing, where there are tooltips that pop up.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BG3 uses D&D fifth edition rules, and the game is set in the Forgotten Realms, which is the official setting for D&D right now.

I don't know what any of these words mean, but thank you.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

D&D fifth edition rules

This is the fifth version of D&D, released a few years ago I believe. Each version of D&D is called an "edition" and each one contains changes & new rules, characters, settings, stories, etc. Think of it like an update to a video game. Some people prefer old editions, some like new editions. The rules in BG3 are mostly from 5th edition (abbreviated as 5e). Like with video games, the publishers of D&D are called "Wizards of the Coast" so when people refer to editions, they refer to updates released by that particular company. Other companies make other versions, modifications, and campaigns within and like D&D, but only WotC makes D&D editions.

Forgotten realms

This is just the setting for D&D. It's rather high fantasy, and if you're playing a bog standard D&D game in real life, this is probably where your story is going to be set. Most of the settings within the Forgotten Realms are set within the large continent of Faerun. FWIW, "Baldur's Gate" Is the name of a canonical city in Faerun. It's a very wealthy and prosperous merchant city state. There are other campaigns and stories from other continents in the Forgotten Realms (and from beyond the forgotten realms), but Faerun is by far the most fleshed out.

TL;DR: 5e is the "fifth edition," which is the most current "official" ruleset for the game. The Forgotten Realms are the official setting for the game. Faerun is the main continent, and Baldur's Gate is a city on that continent.

[–] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

This is the fifth version of D&D, released a few years ago I believe

Nearly a decade now, 5e core rulebooks were all released in 2014.

[–] Doxatek@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Overwatch makes new players do tutorials on each of the heroes now as well as describing all the abilities at any time in the selection screen. I think if you were to explore it again and play for a while you would learn it all really quickly. The characters aren't really that complex once you learn what is going on haha. Definitely at first it's just chaos and dunno why you're dying

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I just went and checked it out and it's free-to-play and the reviews are "overwhelmingly negative", both of which typically keep me far far away haha

Also all of the "most helpful" reviews are just memes and not even reviews at all. WTF is that about?

[–] Doxatek@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao gotcha. I mostly played when it first came out. I imagine the reason it was overwhelmingly negative was the review bombing of the "overwatch 2" which is the exact same as overwatch one except they forced everyone to switch to this one where the only difference is the addition of a store. everything that used to be free cosmetic wise is now payable content.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

everything that used to be free cosmetic wise is now payable content.

And they badger you every 5 minutes about buying it. Pretty much what I figured.