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[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Maybe it’s not the most elegant example but the barbie movie of last summer is an interesting example of a piece of media that addresses the fact that certain types of male socialization is harmful to everyone if you can approach it with an open mind.

Imagine the same points being made in a different movie, without all that Barbie Girl Power. In a movie not marketed towards gals. Just doesn't happen. Pretty much all the male hero arcs in (non-kid) media are geared towards the female gaze and phantasies, not issues actual men face. And why not of course we live in capitalism and that's what sells the most tickets. No, "guy saves the day" doesn't really get men off, by and large "the roof for once doesn't need fixing and I can kick back" is way more attractive.

while simultaneously putting a lot of pressure on being “a real man” that gets the girl,

Meanwhile, gals are asking "where are all the real men gone". Everyone is willing to tell you versions of "this is how it works" without actually understanding the issue, from "just open up" (which gets you ignored at best, cast out at worst), to "just punch everything", which of course also doesn't work.

There is a distinct lack of solutions, or even a desire to build a new tradition of behaviour that does not require ideological buy-in, or only works for abusive couples (like Dworkin and her victim). Things that align with instinct. E.g. you can't simply demand non-violence and then only look at physical violence: What's a guy to do if a gal becomes psychologically abusive? That's the point where "Real men don't hit woman, we tickle" then suddenly makes a ton of sense. You don't get to attack me at my weak spot and not get a proportional response.

My two cents? Difference feminism has been dismissed prematurely. Of course, get rid of all the ancient toxic normative shit the groups that brought it up brought with them, but fail to include difference on a fundamental level and well-meant but absolutely counterproductive advise such as "just open up" will never vanish due to a structural incapability to see the other side as you insist that it's the same as you: Way worse than essentialising a banana as a banana is essentialising it as an apple. That's also how you get shit like the new Mulan: Because apparently the only way a gal can ever achieve anything is to be born magical so that she can fight like a guy. I mean it kinda works as a transmasc egg fantasy but they should've just kept the old story, or, better yet, not make a re-make at all, as the old story did show how a gal can, indeed, save the day, with brains and guts instead of brawn or magic (and of course the new one's a Mary Sue but I wanted to complain about theme, not just shoddy writing). Am I beginning to rant? Probably better stop.

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