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Think about taxing the rich? THAT'S SOCIALISM
Ponder if an apartheid state is doing a genocide? ANTISEMITISM
Don't like the new Marvel movie? SEXIST! RACIST!
Freedom of speech died long ago and now there is no flow of ideas, even incrementally. We're in big trouble
Not liking the new Marvel movie is fine. Making it about race or sex is what makes you a racist for not liking the new Marvel movie. This thread apparently thinks those people don't exist lol
Eh, while it's not as common as other political psychosis, I have directly been told, "you just don't like strong women." to my face, for saying I didn't like how they utterly failed to develop Rey as a character in the new Star Wars trilogy and the movies suck over all.
Apparently wanting good, cohesive writing where main characters actually have lessons to learn and growth to do makes me a sexist to them, all because I can point to Luke, a guy, failing a bunch?
Some people really DO need to "touch grass".
Sshhh.
In my case, this was literally in person to my face from a coworker with little media analysis skill. I never even made unclear statements beyond, "I don't like Rey", with further explanation about how her character development is highly lacking. Not the actress or anything like that, even.
Don't be the equivalently stupid person on the other side of the coin, constantly refusing to admit that those internet weirdos are actual people in the real world somewhere.
I have directly been told lots of nutty things. Just yesterday someone told me that my nickname in a video game was affecting my lag. That doesn't make any sense.
Why does this bother you unless you actually have an issue with women? The fact that you're complaining about it indicates that it is meaningful to you.
Being misunderstood, even by dumbasses, is meaningful to me.
I value competent communication, and voluntarily misconstruing someone is peak failure to listen.
Kinda sus on that third question
I have seen this argument used against people who didn't like the Marvels.
Yeah, and it was also a dog whistle to conservatives to feel under represented and "oppressed" by the presence of a non white person as a superhero.
The people you're talking about can easily clarify it by saying "I don't like it, but I'm happy to see more women and people of color in these roles". Bish bash bosh, not a racist.
For example:
That Miss Marvel show didn't appeal to me because it was clearly a coming of age story made for young teens.
I didn't go see it because I'm burnt out on Marvel movie seemingly made MadLibs style with the same 3 predictable plots and a word bank of characters and settings.
Location: Your mom's house
Ok someone else pick the characters and plot.
Okay, but that was you. There were thousands more broskis online that hated it simply because it reminded them that minorities exist.
Sure. But you can tell what they are because they say things like "the agenda" and "forced diversity," or spend time getting mad that a Marvel series had the nerve to be made for young people.
no nuance, please... we aren't divided enough.
Or "I didn't like it, and I don't need a reason why"
Is that really how you talk to people?
My friends don't typically demand I justify my opinions.
What? How do you have a conversation with people without explaining your thoughts? In my head your conversations go like this lol
Person: Hey Ilovethebomb, you see the new marvel movie.
You: Yeah, I didn't like it.
Person: Really, why not?
You: I don't need a reason why.
So again, is that really how you talk to people. It can't be right?
You keep having conversations in your head.
I can only assume from your inability to answer my question that the answer is yes, you really do talk to people like that. What a strange way to go through life. Why join a social media network just to be antisocial lol.
You really just invented a hypothetical scenario in your head and got angry about it, didn't you?
Angry, no. More confused, I just found your comment interesting and asked you to clarify. You refused to, so I'll never know what you meant, which is fine. There's really nothing left to discuss then. Best of luck my friend 🖖.
Can you hear that whistling sound? No? Does that mean it isn't there?
They have Homelander, what more do they need?
I'm allowed to not like things without having to justify myself.
Well, yeah. Both Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel were met with extreme vitriol from people who would rather not see a woman in their super hero universe. Should we expect those people to have gone through a maturation process in the last 4 years?
The problem comes when you dislike these not because there was a female lead but because the writing was shit.
But because woman lead men sexist for no like.
Though tbf it really comes down to most writers not knowing how to write female leads.
It's a bigger problem that barely has to do with the specific shows or movies. Marvel Studios has mostly been coasting since Endgame. It also didn't prioritize female led properties, so they're all coming out in this coasting period. This means they might be on average not as good. It's not directly because they're female led, but it is sort of indirectly because of that.
This comes off as you being one of the people who rejects criticism
This isn’t a discussion of the media, it’s about people rejecting criticism
The issue is when it's used to silence criticism about the many other issues with the film.
clutches chest He got me! I am the sexist racist! Give me my sign /s
And my point is proven in realtime
Lol, free speech isn't dead just because people criticize your opinions. You're not being silenced because people argue with you, and no one is arresting you for your opinions. Climb down off your cross.
But everyone has to listen to me loudly whine about being silenced when I'm up here...
Freedom of speech is just fine. Call me when the government arrests you for something you say.
I feel like the kind of person who would claim there is no freedom of speech anymore would take this challenge and go shout "FIRE" in a movie theatre or "BOMB" in an airport.
We still have freedom of speech, for now. While the brainlets on twitter and other social media censor eachother, we can still say and think whatever we want. Its just that people are pushed by it into one of several dumbass corners that many ideas appear lost. Luckily, platforms like lemmy emerge to hopefully counter some of that effect.
No see i think there is a problem with Lemmy. Its not seeking to be a new space that fills a need and slowly expand. Its already trying to be a clone of something else. Hoarders came in and moved in all their junk and now its to full of crap to see or move around in. And the forced identity effect is still happening cause it was built upon a communist graveyard and we are haunted by ghosts of people saying the only way forward is still back.
yeah but having a less restricted space is ideal for exploring fresh ideas. if you have a platform trying to do specifically that, i think you also end up with extremism. Im not saying lemmy is the perfect platform, but the decentralized nature of it is potentially a way to a more free platform. Mainly because advertisers dont get to fuck it up.
Decentralization is an extremist position, to be fair.
How so?
Just reminded about this eposode. It even has english subs.