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Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive (signal.org)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by fer0n@lemm.ee to c/technology@beehaw.org

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We estimate that by 2025, Signal will require approximately $50 million dollars a year to operate—and this is very lean compared to other popular messaging apps that don’t respect your privacy.

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

Wouldn’t that mean both have to have a connection at the same time?

Yes.

What if one is offline?

How do you think you're going to receive messages offline?

How much time does your phone spend offline?

One device can send a receipt when received. If the other device doesn't receive that receipt it can just keep pinging periodically until it receives it.

You can also just hook up any old phone or computer, install the app, and let it run as the server.

For more info on how this currently works you can check out Keet.io

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago (7 children)

You can also just hook up any old phone or computer, install the app, and let it run as the server.

If you have a static IP address, if you want to bother with securing and maintaining it, if you're willing to deal with downtime when something inevitably breaks, if you're willing to deal with lost data or also maintaining a backup solution, if... a dozen other things that most people don't want to deal with.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

You don't need to do any of those things. It's functionally no different from your Signal Android and desktop apps. There's no configuration necessary.

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Keet is closed-source app with built-in crypto, I am not touching it with a 10ft pole. Holepunch does sound like interesting technology at first glance. It doesn't solve any of the issues mentioned above besides connectivity however.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

I wasn't suggesting you should use it, it's a demonstration of the application of the technology.

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