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We estimate that by 2025, Signal will require approximately $50 million dollars a year to operate—and this is very lean compared to other popular messaging apps that don’t respect your privacy.

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[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 27 points 2 years ago (31 children)

If you are curious, you should give XMPP a shot, it's equivalent to Signal in terms of encryption, but anyone can host their own. Signal is ideologically opposed to anyone but themselves being in control of your account, and because of that I don't want to trust them.

[–] master5o1@lemmy.nz 9 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Ten years ago sure, the days I'd suggest matrix instead.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I assessed XMPP vs Matrix about 8 years ago, and strikingly, the basis on which it didn't make the cut still applies today. Here's what I responded to a sibling post: https://programming.dev/comment/5408356

In short, Matrix dug themselves into a complexity pit with an inadequate protocol, survived for a while on venture capital money (upscaling servers and marketing at all cost), all of it dried up, and now they are in financial trouble. Matrix won't disappear overnight, but is definitely losing the means to run the managed instances and the client/server ecosystem.

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is Matrix's problem just the large scale? I thought it worked relatively well if you're just using it for personal needs like smaller servers and personal bridges.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Matrix problems become unmanageable at scale, but the effects of the underlying complexity can be felt long before: https://telegra.ph/why-not-matrix-08-07

[–] Zworf@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

It works great for me for personal use yes.

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