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I have all my mp3s on my NAS. Over the years, I've been rating the tracks, standardizing the id3 tags, etc. I love my music collection. But the era of the single device experience is over and as such I need a little more. Up until now, I've been copying tracks over to my phone every time I need new portable music.

At one point I was using Clementine Music Player on my laptop and using Clementine Remote on my phone. But Clementine died and hasn't received an update in years.

I tried Plex but holy fuck, it made a mess of my collection. I couldn't search for tracks by rating and I couldn't do searches like "(genre: hip-hop OR genre: rap) AND rating>4)" which made it double useless for me.

So I guess my question is, is what can I point at my NAS music directories, which can allow me to stream music from my server when I'm in the house, will allow me to filter by ratings and anything else I like, fucks off the money grab which is the artists (plural) id3 tag, will allow me to update ratings from my phone or laptop and will allow me to copy to my local device for when I'm ready to leave out?

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[–] Iamdanno@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

....fucks off the money grab which is the artists (plural) id3 tag....

What is that about?

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The artists tag is a by-product of the streaming era whereby in order to try and get as much money as possible, artists needed to elevate their prominence and so the artists tag was born, an easy way for streaming service to cash in on users searching for featured artists.

Of course the artists tacitly agreed to this, as this meant they could get more money and more exposure, even though services like Spotify should've been indexing features anyway.

Ultimately, this is aimed at eroding the position of artists in the music industry and in particular in hip-hop and rap where the artists generally collaborate more than in any other genre of music, because in order to try and get a fair payday, you have to undermine the actual work of the primary artist.

Put it like this, you wouldn't see a film advertised as a Scorsese and DiCaprio film. It's always a Scorsese film starring Leonardo DiCaprio and for good reason. But in music, they diminish the role of the primary artist as much as possible in order to ensure that things stay the same and the streaming services and labels get the lion's share of the revenue.

Even the fact that the composer tag exists rather than the producer tag shows how skewed things are and how little respect hip-hop garners, despite generating so much culturally and economically.

To go back to the film analogy, the artists tag is essentially a cast tag and I won't deny it has its place, but the director, producer, writer far outside the role of someone who is just making a cameo and thus they shouldn't be on the poster outside of a gimmick.

[–] madkarlsson@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I agree with most of your points but the artist tag in ID3 tags existed way before streaming music services was a thing. Hell it existed in versions.

So what's that about?

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The artist tag (singular) has rightfully been around forever, the artists tag (plural) is relatively new. You'll see it as "Artist 1;Artist 2" or similar.

[–] madkarlsson@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh, missed the plural, sorry about that. But is that one the same as "Album artists" or yet another one then?

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Different to album artists, which is good for compilations and producer lead albums.

[–] madkarlsson@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Alright, thanks. Sounds like the existing fields could have been leveraged for that tbh, seems given that the newer field would be overused/misused

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 2 points 11 months ago

Exactly. The only reason this was added was to confuse our music libraries.