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[โ€“] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 145 points 1 year ago (3 children)

health insurance != healthcare

health insurance profits only exist at the expense of human suffering.

but lets make sure everyone has insurance but not care

[โ€“] dillydogg@lemmy.one 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought this thread was for hot takes ๐Ÿ˜‰

[โ€“] dmention7@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago

Is this your first time in an "unpopular opinion" thread? lol

[โ€“] danhakimi@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

health insurance isn't really insurance either.

it's like a health services subscription plan with a million convoluted rules.

[โ€“] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish more people understood this. Insurance is an extra cost paid to protect from catastrophe. Anything that saves you money on a regular basis is not insurance: where does the extra money come from?

Pet insurance is another bizarre misunderstanding of this nature. Unless there are procedures you are unwilling to forego to save your pet, but completely unable to afford, you are throwing money away in the long run. The entire actuarial profession exists to ensure this fact. Take what you'd spend on premiums, and invest it in a good savings vehicle instead.

[โ€“] danhakimi@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

insurance is part of health plans. There is a deductible and an out-of-pocket max, which are both designed to protect you from those catastrophic risks. But because those catastrophic risks are best addressed by preventative care, and regular checkups, and freakin' gym memberships, so the economics of insuring health becomes the economics of health incentivization, fucking around to figure out what it takes to get people to take care of themselves in advance rather than waiting but not getting people to go to doctors for frivolous issues.

[โ€“] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah, there shouldnโ€™t be health insurance, just health care. Some things are uncertain like whether you get in a car accident, or whether a weather event causes damage to your house. Health problems are not uncertain. People will all have them. Just spend the money on training and hiring doctors and nurses to treat these issues in a large enough quantity that the care is sufficient.