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Seems to me the fear of overloading one instance over another will not happen after all.

But I do hope the Threadiverse can hit 500,000 consistent active users by the end of summer.

Give me that hopium guys! πŸ’‰

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[–] nyternic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So I have a vague understanding of this.

I tried going to another server when I read something about a lemmy instance turning down FB. I go there and I'm prompted to make yet another account to use that instance.

Does this mean, that I need to make a new log-in per instance, per server just to use it? If so, that's entirely exhausting for me to keep track and I already have an abundance of accounts as is, to where I had to make a document that records every account with every password. We need an internet where it's less of that.

[–] thegiddystitcher@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hey, you're getting some well-meaning but quite confusing answers on this so I'll try and sum up:

  • Each instance / server is its own self-contained thing, so yes if you want to change which instance you use as your home you'd need to set up a new account on it. But...
  • You DO NOT need to do this just to join and interact with communities from other instances, you can do that from your lemmy.world account
  • Some people are uncomfortable with the idea of .world potentially federating with Threads down the line, so are pre-emptively making the jump to another instance

There are other reasons to have multiple accounts, for example I have one account that is mostly subbed to gaming stuff and then I have this account that is mostly subbed to crafting stuff, because I like to have the two separate subscription feeds. I did the same thing over on Reddit, on Mastodon, etc etc. Some people have a dedicated NSFW account. Whether you personally have a use case for multiple accounts, or whether you personally want to steer clear of any potential future federation with Threads, is up to you.

[–] ramplay@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Maybe it would be confusing to add this but your second point could clarify that you can interact with any other instance so long as:

  • lemmy.world hasn't defederated from them
  • That instance hasn't defederated from lemmy.world

For instance (accidental pun), I believe behaw.org is/was defederated from lemmy.world. Additionally, I believe I heard that lemmy.world defederated from lemmy.online (the reddit spam instance).

I know my instance is also currently discussing defederating lemmy.online among other choices

[–] thegiddystitcher@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I generally leave the whole defederation nonsense for a followup when it seems like someone needs the bigger picture explanation, otherwise things get lengthy. But you are technically correct, which we all know is the best kind of correct.

[–] ramplay@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

That's fair, I tend to get too technical in my explanations anyways. Completely fair if you left that piece out for simplicity

Lemmy.online was taken down, from what I can tell. Pretty much everyone told that admin what he was doing was a bad idea and something that no-one wanted. Most instances defederated the site and I think he gave up.

I think a key point that a lot of people don't understand is that data from communities on different instances doesn't replicate to your instance unless a user cross-subscribes to that specific community. If you build an instance and want !memes@lemmy.world to show up on your instances ALL feed, you have to subscribe to it with at least one account by browsing to your@instance.com/c/memes@lemmy.world and hitting the sub button. Only then will the content replicate.

Server federation between two instances doesn't magically connect all the communities, but once the users have subbed, they'll be able to see the content they want to see on these smaller instances. The process to get all the data replicated over is just a little more convoluted than it should be.

[–] Tsouintsouin@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You need a password manager like Bitwarden

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No. You 'can' log in to each individual server if you want, but, because Lemmy is Federated you don't need to. Pick a home-base and you can interact with all the others (that aren't defederated). (Edit: tip - choose an instance that shares your interests for your home-base. It may make things more comfortable for you in the future.)

In practice, this means instead of clicking another instance you just Search:All and subscribe to what ever Lemmy communities you're interested in. Annoyingly this can mean duplicate communities (think r/cute, r/aww, r/pics, r/pictures, r/awwnopitbulls, r/awwcute....) but this downside is easily tolerated. Post and comment on other federated communities as you wish.

[–] jantin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is how mastodon works, you need account on each instance to follow it all and post there.

On lemmy you can have account on one instance and follow and post in all federated communities. Still doesn't solve following "local" from several instances but is already much easier.

[–] jantin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Also apps like liftoff store your login to different instanxes and it's quite smooth to switch feeds.

I reckon it can be possible to compartmentalize by topic with several accounts (for example a .world account only for news and politics, a lemmy.ml one for tech and laughing at reddit, a third one elsewhere for memes, each of them subscribing to different communities on all the instances)