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[–] voidbanana@feddit.nu 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's a waste spending time and money on nuclear today. Building a nuclear plant takes a decade and costs more than renewables. Better to go all in on renewable sources, especially wind and solar power.

Sweden, like many other countries, already experience a huge interest in, and investments and production of renewables. Why not build on that? It's less expensive, has faster time to market, and results in a more resilient power grid when large single points of failure can be avoided.

What is sorely needed in Sweden is making it easier to getting approval for building wind turbines, especially at sea where noise and light pollution is a non-issue, and power grid improvements to support distribution from these new production sites. One area where government support could be really useful is investing in large scale energy storage to be able to deal with peak load.

[–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We need to go 0 carbon yesterday. If you can assure me that in the 12 years it'll take to build a nuclear plant we can have built an equal GW-amount of stable renewables that can serve the same area with the same 100% uptime, sure. But every moment we rely on any amount of oil/gas/coal to cover the renewable gaps is another moment we won't get back in the fight against effectively permanent climate change.

Just like with literally everything else involved in the climate change equation, we needed to have been phasing out oil/gas/coal for nuclear 10-15 years ago. But because we dragged our feet and listened to the pleasing lies from the fossil fuel industry, we're fucked now. We're just fucked. Our kids are fucked, our grandkids are fucked, but maybe we have a chance to un-fuck the future for our great-grandkids, but only if we stop dicking around and actually DO SOMETHING EFFECTIVE. Like ditch all the fossil fuel plants right the fuck now. Can renewables completely replace all the fossil fuel plants? No? Then we need fucking nuclear.

[–] Denaton@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I agree that the world need to go greed several years ago, we are past of no return and are just breaking before the crash, now it's only how hard we will hit the bricks.

But Sweden is a tiny county compared to other countries and ain't the problem when it comes to the climate change, sure everyone should draw their straw to the ant hill, but prolonging 12y in Sweden isn't the problem, it's the bigger counties that need the big changes..

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