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[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you're hearing my point. Electability, not policy. I agree with you on what makes for good policy. It unfortunately doesn't stop a Trump election win

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And I'm saying I don't think he is, unless you think charisma is the only necessary quality for electability.

Personally I think Newsom comes off as a douche

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For president? Yes. Policy will not change hearts and minds anymore. (Unless you're a union organizer..I really do wish he would run!) Purported independent swing voters are spineless and vote for character stories and who they like, if they aren't full of shit Republican voters to begin with.

You feel that way about him because you're intelligent, critical, and seeking substance. Do you think you're the voter we're talking about persuading?

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

I'm not trying to get into an argument over electoralism right now, but I think you underestimate people's sensitivity to their material conditions.

Candidates like Newsom are the reason why people disengage from politics entirely. It's why I like Walz, he's been extremely effective at passing popular policies while heading off the most common GOB objections.

Someone with that kind of record would be way more electable than a Newsom or a Biden. Even the most reactionary people in my life have nothing to complain about with Walz. We haven't had an effective Democratic president since FDR, and it's the reason our economy continues to get worse for the working class.