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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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NAACP

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Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration

 

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[–] Someonelemmy@lemmynsfw.com 61 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, and the sexual content in network TV shows is totally fine, but content trying to help adolescents understand their body, and how being different is also normal, must be obscene....

I've never been able to wrap my brain around how these moral crusaders make decisions. Hetero sex and graphic violence is ok? But a biography about growing up gay or trans, with depictions of natural processes and organs, is not?

[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They want kids to be obvious to those facts, while also wanting the general public to believe "if kids don't know about sex, they won't have sex". In Hungary, we're already seeing a pretty steep increase in teen pregnancies and abortions, and our "sovereign" overlords likely did it after Republican command.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

"If kids don't know about sex, they won't have sex." That's the first verse of the mantra, but it goes on:

If kids don't know about gays, they won't be gay.

If kids don't know about trans, they won't be trans.

If kids don't know about science, they won't be anything but Christians.

If kids don't know about history, they won't be anything but Republicans...

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah funny thing about comprehensive sex Ed. It doesn’t just lower teen pregnancy rates, it lowers rates of teen sexual activity as a whole

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Many of these people are strongly against sexual content on TV. It's the deeply ingrained puratinism.

But, they are cool with letting their kids see movies full of graphic violence.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

They’re also cool with electing a sexual predator with 3 hooker wives and bangs porn stars. As puritans do.

[–] Icalasari@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's about control. What they really want is rich white Christo-Catholic men on the top, and everybody else subservient to them

[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This right here. If you try to treat them like they have a specific better world in mind, you'll only get confused at the contradictions. When you realize there is no right-wing utopia, and they only promise an indefinite system of control, it makes more sense.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No, they have an ideal world. They want to go back to the 20s where brown people, poor people, and women were second class citizens.

They will contradict themselves trying to avoid saying this.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

The 20s were more complicated than that. For example, a huge chunk of priests either identified as socialist outright or leaned that way. It took decades of effort to switch Christian religious leaders in America over to the Prosperity Gospel, and the early attempts were laughably transparent and self serving.

And that's all kinda what I mean. They don't want that, not as it actually existed. The constant struggle against some kind of Other is what they want.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Yes, but only in public. In private, they'll say exactly what you said, and chuckle.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s simple, they don’t believe being different is normal or ok. The conservatives want everyone to be cis, straight, and Christian, preferably white as well but if you can’t be that at least be the first three.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Exactly this, except that no conservatives know what 'cis' means.

[–] Snoozemumrik@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Excuse me, Daddy Elon actually made that a slur on twitter, so they at least know it's bad and scary

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)