this post was submitted on 06 Jan 2024
242 points (89.8% liked)
Mildly Interesting
17384 readers
45 users here now
This is for strictly mildly interesting material. If it's too interesting, it doesn't belong. If it's not interesting, it doesn't belong.
This is obviously an objective criteria, so the mods are always right. Or maybe mildly right? Ahh.. what do we know?
Just post some stuff and don't spam.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Older receptacles had a design that would hug the holes to hold the plug in place. It’s a holdover for people with older houses.
I think this fact is actually a myth, the holes are for manufacturing as stated previously.
Not exactly a myth, but likely never used for retention purposes as was originally intended. See more here: https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/11495/nema-5-15p-blade-holes
Older receptacles and even modern receptacles and cords do still make use of their holes.
It’s why if the holes are included there is specs they must follow.
This plug makes use of the holes for a solid mechanical connection that will only be removed when you pull on the collar to remove the pin that goes through the holes.
If it’s for manufacturing why are some made without them?
Theres patents out there, I don’t know why technology connection did his own experiments on modern plugs instead of a modicum of research about receptacles.
Not exactly sure, I think it's just one of those things were we "people" have gotten so used to the design and how it's supposed to look, that even if it's not needed we keep doing it.
Since multiple companies manufacturer plugs and connections, some manufacturers may not need the holes as a part of the assembly process. Other may opt not to add them as they do not have a purpose (other then how we perceive a north america plug is supposed to look like).
Funny story, almost all standard north america three prong plug are installed upside down. The third "center prong" or "ground" is actually on the top per the original design.
Most new builds and electricians are opting to install this way now. The orientation has no impact on performance.
Except that if a plug falls out, you want it to stay grounded... meaning the ground should absolutely be on the bottom because gravity.
Not necessarily. You typically want the ground longer so it's the first in and last out. Type G has the ground on top. I vaguely remember hearing that's because if it comes slightly out and something sharp or metal falls on the plug, you want it to hit the ground and not the live part...but I don't know how reliable that story is.
Some electricians started doing it since it became a viral Internet trend to intentionally drop quarters onto the prongs of a slightly pulled out plug.
In history there’s only been a few cases of a fires being started because of an accidental thing falling on the plugs. The breaker trips before a fire would start in almost all cases. Provided the breaker isn’t faulty or something. Which you should be testing regularly as a home owner.
This is the reason, yeah, at least according to what I’d read on Wikipedia (I’d just learned this “funny story” myself a few minutes before reading the comment above). I wanted to see if there was anything that could confirm it, but I’m not paying $70 to purchase the standard (NECA 130-2010) where it may be written.
Funny thing about that, TC recently released a video on this as well.
https://youtu.be/vNj75gJVxcE?feature=shared
TL;DW: Ground on top probably causes more problems than it would solve.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/vNj75gJVxcE?feature=shared
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
There’s patents with these features specified for locking and even modern patents reference these old patents.
Technology connections got it wrong, it happens.
"I like a snug plug" - Dusty Slay
Like the european ones still have?