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Ukrainian soldiers trained abroad express discontent: 'I repeatedly told them NATO manuals didn't apply' (www.lemonde.fr)
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[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 10 months ago (3 children)

When faced with an emergency, they sometimes find more help on YouTube.

Imagine being the largest military alliance in the world and the soldiers you trained find fucking YouTube tutorials more useful than your training.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

why youtube tho, why not ask for help on the warthunder forums?

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

I mean that probably happened but there's a lot more to being a soldier than blasting than disabling a tank

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is part of a wider problem. Even college courses do this shit.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I've long been the opinion that colleges award you a certificate which is further and further removed from actually understanding anything and it'd still be shocking to me if the rot has set in so much that it applies to soldiers

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Your education system on late stage capitalism

[–] D61@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

Kinda makes sense though.

A lot of the "professional soldiers" are either kids trying to get some college money/first job or serving some required term. Nobody really gives a shit about soldiering, they're just there until they can move on to something else.

And the officers I had been around seemed more interested in paper pushing projects than battlefield readiness.

I was in heavy mechanized units and 99% of my time was spent turning a wrench on ancient vehicles (I was not a mechanic) or cleaning up oil/fuel spills. We didn't "train" for shit.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

Onetime, I asked a sargent what we were supposed to do if we were hit with a chemical weapon and had drained our canteens before we could get cleaned up. Specifically, how do we get the potable water out of the 5 gallon jerry cans into our canteens without killing ourselves seeing as how, we're out in the desert and all.

They didn't have an answer and were a bit upset that I even asked.