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I'm sure there will be exceptions like in Germany:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a
Have you heard about the paradox of tolerance?
I think there's a very clear difference between a Buddhist swastika and a Nazi one. Nazis aren't hard to pick out. And this is not a bad precedent. Nazis shouldn't be afforded the freedom to speak. Their ideology should not be tolerated in any way whatsoever by a fair society.
Their ideology does not spread by reason or debate. It spreads by reinforcement, conspiracy theories, and propaganda. Giving them a platform to speak merely enables them to recruit. There is no debating them, as they have no points of debate. You can't tell a Nazi they are factually wrong. That makes no difference in their ideology. You will say, "You're wrong about Jewish people," and the Nazi will point to the audience and say, "See how far the conspiracy goes? Even this guy is a part of it, " and some people in the crowd will genuinely believe them. They don't need to win over every person at once, just more and more and more of them over time. Allowing them to speak in public is effectively the same thing as promoting them. They should not be afforded the option.
There isn't a clear difference, all the cope about 45 degree angles and such is neo-Nazi gaslighting. You can find numerous examples in propaganda and military markings of the Nazis using it damn near anyway they wanted. And Buddhists and Hindus for that matter. It's not anywhere near an exclusively Buddhist symbol btw.
The difference is simply in who's using it and why.
What I meant wasn't that there is a visual difference, but that context makes it crystal clear which symbol it is. I don't mean in architecture or something, I mean you see a Nazi waving a Nazi flag or wearing a Nazi arm band or something and you're not going to have to take a second to consider whether he's using it in a religious way or not.
For real. It's not hard.
You dont hate nazis. You are arguing exactly as every Nazi here in germany argues against the same laws. The nazi swastika is not the same as the sun wheel and no one gets in trouble for displaying the sun wheel. It is not freedom to allow people to communicate the idea that mass murdering innocents is cool
Yes, Nazi swastika is tilted 45 degree. The issue now is whether people can recognise one without calling out religious symbol as nazi. I remember a post on reddit where op posted their new home where the previous owner have swastika tiles and want to get rid of it for the fear of getting associated with nazi, while the comment point it out it shouldn't be the case.
Do you know what set a bad precedent? The Holocaust. The Second World War.
Never again.
The moment they ban a swastika, it's a slippery slope to... Absolutely nothing.
There's lots of things banned.
Freeze peach isn't world wide. Try it. Go to Thailand and insult the monarchy.
And even without the ban, some concepts/terms have a "fuck around and find out" around them. Try pointing a toy gun at a cop, does that infringe on your freedom?