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And my world has new lore... (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago by Stamets@lemmy.world to c/rpgmemes@ttrpg.network

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[+] exocrinous@lemm.ee -16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You called me a slur for my mental disorder to my face a couple hours ago. https://lemm.ee/post/20523475

And in another recent post you admitted that you're fully aware I have NPD, so it was 100% intentional.

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[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you have no idea how much worse that comment you linked makes you look

having a mental disorder doesn't excuse you from being an asshole, stop wearing it like a badge of honour and get therapy

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[+] exocrinous@lemm.ee -11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm not being an asshole. I'm saying slurs are bad. I don't need an excuse to say slurs are bad.

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure narcissist isn't a slur.

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[+] exocrinous@lemm.ee -10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have you asked:

A psychiatrist
A disability expert
A pwNPD

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you can link something by them I can reconsider. (Not you, you're in the conversation and we already know your opinion) I've just never heard it used like that.

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[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Some people saying not to use mental disorders as insults:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/drawing-the-curtains-back/202204/narcissism-considered-diagnosis-or-easy-insult

https://www.reddit.com/r/narcissism/comments/hiyfu4/is_narc_a_negative_term_do_we_think_its/fwk18hj/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Negareddit/comments/5lyldh/using_narcissist_as_an_insult_is_ableist/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NPD_Memes/comments/15tirjm/dont_let_anyone_gaslight_you_into_thinking_they/

And some fascists complaining they were called out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NarcissisticAbuse/comments/a8zfg3/is_narc_a_slur/

https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists/comments/nb2co7/ive_been_accused_of_being_ableist_prejudiced/

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I said slur not insult.

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[+] exocrinous@lemm.ee -6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The word "narc" is a slur, that almost always marks out the user as a self-identifying "victim of narcissistic abuse". It implies a number of incorrect generalizations that have already unfolded quite neatly in this thread. It has definitely become a negative term.

Personally, I would ban all victim lingo. People on "narc abuse" subs use this language to create/enhance their group identity, which is based on a number of incorrect assumptions; "I got really hurt, so my partner is deffo a narcissist", "all people with NPD, or any degree of narcissism are monsters", "self-aware narcissists don't exist", "all of them are abusers", just to mention a few.

We are not allowed to post on those subs. I have never met any of those people, certainly never abused any of them, yet if I post in their space, I will get banned instantly, based on the fact that I have a certain personality disorder. There is a very good reason for that; god forbid that a Narcissistic person genuinely interested in dialogue would burst their bubble, disrupt the story they tell each other.

Yet they are free to post on subs that were created to support Narcissists; free to throw about their negative assumptions, demand explanations for their woes, or downright insult us.

I do not enjoy being a punchbag for "victims", so I would see these discrepancies addressed, and limiting the use of the word "narc" to an appropriate context would be a welcome step in that direction.

Second link in the list.

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

But op didn't use the word 'narc'. I have used that used like a slur, but I thought it referred to people who did narcotic drugs.

Also, do you know which of your three categories that user falls into?

A psychiatrist
A disability expert
A pwNPD

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Narc means snitch where I'm from.

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[+] exocrinous@lemm.ee -6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fine, number 4 is precisely literally what you are asking. Can't copy paste it as it's an image.

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Reddit doesn't let me see that one without the app.

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[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago

Try this: https://old.reddit.com/r/NPD_Memes/comments/15tirjm/dont_let_anyone_gaslight_you_into_thinking_they/

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[–] Tvkan@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

I'm not being an asshole.

That's for others to decide.

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[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That link directs to a post from DroneRights saying that I called them a narcissist to their face. But I said that to you. An account you're insisting isnt an alternate of DroneRights.

You can't even keep your own story straight.

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[+] exocrinous@lemm.ee -9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Show me a link to where I said I'm not DroneRights. It never happened. You're just making stuff up because you hate disabled people.

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[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thats a fair point. You never insisted that you were a different person. That makes it insanely easy for me though. Thank you for openly admitting it so I can report this account to the admins of all those other instances and get this account also unilaterally banned for ban evasion.

Also I'm disabled lol

Byeeeeeeeeeeeee~

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[+] exocrinous@lemm.ee -9 points 10 months ago

I've never been banned from ttrpg.network because I've never broken its rules. Nor the rules of any other instance.

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[–] smeg@feddit.uk 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

FYI most people won't even know that NPD is a thing (I didn't until now), and will struggle to empathise with someone apparently being actively hostile. Everyone's a dick on the internet, and that makes everyone think that everyone else is a dick too. Compiling a list of everyone that's wronged you and pointing to it every time they say something will not make you happy and will turn people against you. Everyone (regardless of mental state) needs to realise that arguing on the internet just makes you more frustrated. Remember the old internet rule "don't feed the trolls"; worry about real life people who matter, not faceless usernames who don't.

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[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago

Not using slurs is a basic precondition to being a good person. My aim is to give people the information needed to make basically ethical decisions, which means not supporting bigots who use slurs. If certain people are too much slaves to their base emotions, and too little capable of simple reasoning, then I am not responsible for the choices they make to fight for the side of hatred.

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