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I have played several games in my Steam library for more hours than it takes to become a police officer.
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this post was submitted on 12 Jan 2024
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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i've played over 12,000 hours of Fallout 4.
I'll take my PhD now, thx
Fallout 4 was released 2,985 days ago.
12,000/2,985 = an average of 4 hours a day, every day, no days off.
Probably the best value purchase you'll make in your life.
that’s why, after around 10k hours, I finally paid for it, lol.
Lol jesus
also, it was on sale. GOTY Edition + all DLCs for, like, $15. why not?
I got more out of that game than anything else I ever pirated (except, maybe, my copies of TNG, DS9, VOY, and all 20 seasons of Law & Order), so I thought: why not pay for it? it was totally worth it!
Dawg how old are you that you've consumed that much content in your life lmao
I’m 44. also, I spent most of my life freelancing/working from home, and, through covid and for a long time afterwards, unemployed— so lots of free time.
also, I haven’t played it in about a year, although a new Mod, Fallout: London just came out, so I may just kiss a few hundred hours goodbye on that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
12000/(2985-365) = 4.58 hours per day!
I have fallout london open in a new tab on my computer waiting for me to have time to install it and play it. I haven't been this excited for a mod in a long time
Waiting for skyblivion to be released too, that has been in the works for a while
Isn't London coming out in a few months?
That's what I did with Far Cry 3, but couldn't get the stupid launcher to work on linux, so ended up pirating it again.Great work Ubisoft!
Can I get that in $/hour ?
Hmm, what did it cost at launch? Probably $60?
6,000 cents / 12,000 hours = 0.5 cents per hour.
wow, that’s value! especially considering I only paid $15 for it on sale a few years ago! I played a pirated version until recently, then eventually paid for it. it was just such an incredible game, it thought: why not?
0.125 cents per hour! A thousand times better value than a movie!
Lots of Netflix hours on that one, I'd bet.
Here is your theoretical Doctorate of Science.
Thank you, Professor, I humbly accept.
~~EA~~ Bethesda only counts microtransactions when advancing your degree
Microsoft doesn't own EA... yet.
Please tell me you accidentally added an extra 0 when you weren’t meant to…
well… not as a typo…
covid was rough.
What is there even to do in Fallout 4 to justify even 1,200 hours, much less 12,000?
settlements. between the mods and cheats, you can go pretty fucking crazy.
and, oh, boy, did i. I’ve pretty much rebuilt the entire commonwealth several times over.
Some mods can really bloat up the game. Tbh, even in vanilla, with all the DLCs... if you want to 100% it, it takes you quite a while. So let's assume OP is a completionist. Then add for example, Sim Settlements 2, all three chapters and Rise of the Commonwealth. That's gonna take you a while to finish, and I'm also going to guess that OP started a new game rather than an existing save every time a new mod and/or chapter was released. On top of that I imagine you'll want to do a Survival run at least once, which can take quite a while. Just to name a few things. :p
Fallout 4 is just like Skyrim. There are so many mods, there is almost no limit to how much time you spend playing it. And because there are so many mods, you'll always have new things to do.
yeah, a typical vanilla (or even DLC) playthrough is about 40-60 hours. maybe 80 if you really scour. with mods and cheats, I get an average of 200-400 hours out of a playthough.. 600 if I put a lot of wrk into it. technically, one could go on forever, but that’s about the limit I hit before it’s just boring and everything worth doing is done.
FO4, unlike any other, really allows you to build your own world in the Commonwealth. The mods are amazing.
Lmao fam really thought they were doing something with this
Or you could spend 12k hours enjoying your life and not worrying what others consider "productive"
Good for you then. I’ll get right on baking your tray of cookies.
I bet they're tons of fun at parties. We should have one and invite vsh.
Speaking of coffins, you sound like the type that would be happier in one. Give it a try.
No thanks. I enjoy my rest and relaxation.
Will rot your brain thoroughly. If you had spent that time instead reading 1000 pieces of actually good literature, there's plenty of stuff you could've actually learned, instead of just having people tell you that you can count your golf trips as business expenses, and "stop being depressed it's all about your growth grindset", and "please buy the next book in this course it will really tell you how to make a bunch of money" and then it's just a pyramid scheme.
You could've learned some sort shit like the vimes boot theory, which is pretty good, and is a pretty good example of something you could learn from a totally random book. You could've learned all about medieval speech and castle architecture. if you were addicted to hardcore pulp sci-fi, you could've learned about xenobiology and a bunch of different math and science that those books tend to use as the basis for their outlandish premises. If you'd read a bunch of classic french literature, you could've become a pretty good expert in that very particular field, same with watching 1000 random french movies from like the 50's or 60's. If you'd spent 10,000 hours skateboarding, instead, you'd probably be able to do a kickflip, and at that point, the world's your oyster. You've won, you might as well quit now, since you can kickflip. 10,000 hours hacky sacking and you can probably juggle almost anything with your feet, and that's pretty cool, I would think. 10,000 hours playing modded fallout 4, even though I don't like that game very much and think it sucks, 10,000 hours doing that, and you might know enough just based on the shit you have to do to be able to play the mods, to be able to do some professional tech work. You might even just know how to make your own mod, at that point, if you're interested enough in it. I know that 10,000 hours of dwarf fortress will basically have gotten you there.
Bro's like "oh nah you should go read some books, that's a better use of your time" and then is also like "that's too long I can't read that shit".
Trolling used to be impressive, you know?
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edit: I’m happy, and that’s what matters. I’m sorry you’re not.
you should probably take your own advice rather than getting so twisted up about how random strangers live their lives.
wow, I feel sorry for you that my talking about my gaming habits triggered this level of insecurity in you. I suggest you talk to someone about that.
I hope you feel better.
Siskel and Ebert: And we decided to take that personally.