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In an interview with the Guardian from his home base in Burlington, Vermont, Sanders urged the Democratic president to inject more urgency into his bid for re-election. He said that unless the president was more direct in recognising the many crises faced by working-class families his Republican rival would win.

“We’ve got to see the White House move more aggressively on healthcare, on housing, on tax reform, on the high cost of prescription drugs,” Sanders said. “If we can get the president to move in that direction, he will win; if not, he’s going to lose.”

The US senator from Vermont added that he was in contact with the White House pressing that point. “We hope to make clear to the president and his team that they are not going to win this election unless they come up with a progressive agenda that speaks to the needs of the working class of this country.”

Sanders’ warning comes at a critical time in American politics. On Monday, Republicans in Iowa will gather for caucuses that mark the official start of the 2024 presidential election.

Biden faces no serious challenger in the Democratic primaries. But concern is mounting over how he would fare against Trump given a likely rematch between them in November.

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 244 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Every once in awhile I catch myself thinking about how different the world would have been if Bernie was president and it's just so fucking sad.

I get that all the other problems would still exist, but there would be a glimmer of hope to cling on to.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 161 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I voted for Bernie and he would have been great, I always find myself thinking about Gore winning more often. I have more respect for Bernie for sure but we’d have been in such a better place by 2016. Jesus, there’s a non-zero chance that the 9/11 warnings don’t get ignored and the US definitely doesn’t invade Iraq or Afghanistan. The housing bubble would probably still have burst in a bad way but I doubt it goes down the same way. Supreme Court wouldn’t be as full of neocons and zealots.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not just that if Gore had won and 9-11 would have still happened we would have likely seen a push away from oil starting in the early 2000s. I think Gore could've turned that into an opportunity to say "to hell with these middle east authoritarians and their oil, we can do better for ourselves and better for the planet."

Unfortunately I was 6 when 9-11 happened so I didn't have much say in these matters.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gore would have been a timeline-changer. I would vote for him now. I wonder if he’s a viable candidate at this point?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Goddamnit, when can we get some time machines already!

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

If nothing else, I'm fairly sure Gore would have actually read his intelligence briefings.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, this was always my big one too. I'm a green at heart, but I learned a brutal lesson then, that I'll carry inside of me forever. A lesson that has only gotten reinforced by the slow march of modern fascism.

Democracy requires dialogue, patience, empathy and compromise. The alternative is authoritarianism, and the unavoidable power struggles that come from too much centralized power in a world with ambitious humans. We need to remember that, and dialogue and compromise with our, in many ways younger-self progressives, instead of trying to corral them. We can do this. We are not too afraid.

Give em hell Bernie.

[–] derphurr@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] derphurr@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

DNC lawyers argued that the Democratic Party doesn’t owe anyone a fair process and that it has every right to disregard its own rules or interpret its rules how it wants because it is a private organization.

Niiice

[–] Coach@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Ugh...you're 1000% right. That timeline sounds wonderful.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Yeah I think with gore we’d’ve had a good chance of being the world leader in switching to green energy right around when hummers got popular instead.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

His EO's alone would have accomplished more in one term than any Dem since LBJ.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Fix the whole last century and just assassinate Wilson in 1911-1912 before the damn election.

[–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

It's possible we'd be in a better situation now. Lots of obvious things like not tossing out known facts about terrorism efforts and having a climate change awareness leadership. There's much that would still be the same, like the system of consumerism that is the core of much of our problems. One person in a limited power seat can't fix that, I'm not sure anything can outside of failure of the system itself. But I do think we would have at least avoided that one historic turning point that revved back up the military drive of the US. Even GWB's administration was looking into ways of reducing the military into smaller, more mobile parts until suddenly we went into revenge mode. Or useful crisis mode.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I always find myself thinking about Gore winning more often.

We might be thinking about Biden winning his second term as Nazis take over the US in the future - Get your friends to vote

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I do wish he had been president, but I also wonder how much of his agenda he could have gotten past congress, even if Democrats were in charge. Most Democrats are, at best, about preserving the status quo and I hate having to vote for them just to stop the people who will make things even worse.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I voted for Bernie every chance I've had, but I genuinely doubt he could have achieved the current level of success much less something better.

Without a Congress full of like-minded people, it would have been a struggle. I think we can have someone like Bernie for president one day, but it's people being passionate and engaging with every vote and every election.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Undoubtedly they would've sabotaged Bernie every chance they got, just like the labour party sabotaged Corbyn in the UK. Both of those parties are glad they only had to sabotage during the elections.

[–] Yewb@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Remember when debbie Wasserman shutlz stole the dnc nomination from bernie to give it to Hillary?

That one rug pull gave donnie the win.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Remember when this was challenged and the court ruled the Parties have no obligation to play fair

[–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, he did.

The 2000 election was decided by the Supreme Court, not the voters.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

This is the most upsetting part, he fucking won, and we still have to live with the consequences of the GOP blatantly stealing the election

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

It wasn't just Bernie who got the screws from Democrats. Henry Wallace got the same shaft from Democrats. On the other hand, Republicans don't have populist fliers, they have fascists fliers who are promoted to the top.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

But, But Bernie would've turned us into the USSR! /s

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A significant portion of the US population think Biden is a communist, how would Sanders have a chance of winning enough votes?

There’s a reason Trump fought so hard to have Bernie as the democratic nominee in 2020.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

a significant portion of the US population thinks trump is a fascist, how would he have a chance of winning enough votes?

there's a reason hilary fought so hard to have trump as the republican nominee in 2016.

...

am i doing it right?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m not doing another conversation with you so you can ghost it when it gets to difficult to counter then report my comments.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

this is poisoning the well. (a form of ad hominem)

it's also a lie.

and what i said is true.

and here is some more truth: i don't want you to respond to anything i ever say.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Modlogs are public.

Anyone who wants to can look at it.

Have a nice day.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 10 months ago

i hope they do.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i can't seem to find my reports. can you link them?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

did you finally find the block button?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It takes about ten seconds to block someone so they’ve got to be worth the effort.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 10 months ago

is there any way i can make it easier for you?

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Have you seen this video yet?

Bernie's Legacy w/ Killer Mike https://youtu.be/ZlZaVtCT5HI

Never forget the movement... Not me. Us.