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    [–] victorz@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    X11 is already dead

    How do you mean that? I've been using X11 for like 17 years. i3 uses X11, and I will most likely not use another WM if I can help it. It's perfect for me. X11 is available in the core repositories of all the big distros.

    Curious to know what you mean by "dead".

    [–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    by dead I mean abandonware, not devoloped for anymore

    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Just because they don't do full releases doesn't mean it isn't developed anymore. They switched to updating modules individually, with three updates made this month. Doesn't sound very abandoned to me.

    [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    It's on life support but it is doomed.

    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

    That's not what the person I was replying to said, they said it's abandonware and not being developed anymore. Which is not true.

    [–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    It is not getting new features anymore. Just because the distro is packaging it doesn't mean it's not dead.

    I heard Sway is very similar to i3. But I'm partial to hyprland myself

    [–] bonfire921@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    I'll say that while it still has features that Wayland doesn't it's not dead, it doesn't get updates yes but it still used by a lot of people for the fact that Wayland just doesn't support some stuff that x11 does. Great example I have is TeamViewer and Nvidia+KDE

    [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

    You made exactly the point I was trying to make.

    I guess "dead" is a matter of definition in this case. 🙂

    [–] dai@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

    I love me some hyprland, it's minimal enough to run on my 4gb ram foldable laptop with the same animations I have on my main laptop & desktop.

    Wayland x Nvidia aside (on my laptop) it's the perfect minimal environment for me.

    [–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Sway is essentially i3 + Wayland, so it shouldn’t be a hard switch once X11 goes EOL.

    [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    I actually used Sway for a while. Can't remember why I switched back though. What would X11 "going end-of-life" entail? Not being distributed/packaged anymore? Is there an official timeline for that or something?

    [–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 1 points 10 months ago

    Essentially they're not doing feature work on the core codebase. I'm not sure if that's true or not, but the packaging of it wouldn't be up to the developers but the distro maintainers.

    [–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

    Not that I’m aware yet.

    [–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Check out sway. It's exactly like i3 but for wayland

    [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I did but went back to i3 for some reason I can't remember. I think it had something to do with DPI issues in wayland at the time, so the scaling was inconsistent between apps.

    [–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Probably applications incompatible with wayland running under an x11 compatibility layer which doesn't do scaling. It should be resolved when all applications support wayland.

    [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

    Cool. I won't be looking for news on when that might be. 😅