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[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 9 months ago

It's not news to us but it is news to the majority of the population here in the West who for decades have not been exposed to anything other than the lies of the liberal imperialist propaganda apparatus.

[-] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 9 months ago

I am just wondering how western elite thought that Russia gaining all the Donbass, kherson and others would be beneficial for them. Lol 😂 . This ukraine thing is the biggest loss for the West and US

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not really, the whole point was to destroy Europe.

The US simply cannot afford to have Europe backing China in the coming showdown between the two giants. Nord Stream 2 construction was completed in 2021, and its certification kept getting delayed to prevent the Europeans from gaining energy sovereignty, after which they will no longer need to be dependent the US. Hence the war in Ukraine was needed to sever the connection between Europe and Eurasia.

The Ukraine war was dragged out precisely to allow this strategic goal of the US empire to be achieved.

[-] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think the ukraine war was provoked to weaken and bleed Russia . It didn't happen. Europe never had any independence since WW2. It always had close ties with the US but since the ukraine war, Europe has become a joke for the people of the 3rd world. As a person from 3rd world I have no sympathy for Europeans ans their cucked NATO left. German, French government supporting Israel have no shame either. Ukraine war has showed the 3rd world , US is just a paper tiger and the reign of tyranny by NATO and atlantic countries is over.

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That doesn’t mean the Europeans didn’t try though.

The US financial capital took a huge hit in the aftermath of the 2009 financial crisis and at the same time, Nord Stream 1 came online in Germany that allowed Europe to recover its industrial sector relatively quickly and pulled it out of the eurozone crisis and the recession. Euro went up to 30% stronger than the dollar. It was Europe’s chance to gain its energy sovereignty and independence from a weakened US capitalism. That’s why they went and built a second Nord Stream pipeline. And that’s why this motion had to be stopped.

[-] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Europe and ex colonial countries like France got rich by exploiting Africa and allowing IMF to do austerity on the 3rd world. No sympathy for Europe and the US. Let them suffer and vanish into a bygone era.

Nordstream was disliked by the US agencies, it was Merkel who had some courage but now you have cucked governments. European governments will always be racist, vassals of US.

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