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The senator said he has "a hard time understanding" why Trump's legal issues don't "seem to be moving the needle" with more voters.

Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) called out the majority of Iowa Republican caucus voters who baselessly believe that President Joe Biden did not win the 2020 election legitimately.

“I think a lot of people in this country are out of touch with reality and will accept anything Donald Trump tells them,” Romney, who announced in September that he is not seeking reelection, told CNN journalist Manu Raju on Wednesday.

About 65% of Iowa caucusgoers said they believe former President Donald Trump’s lie that the 2020 election was “stolen” from him, according to entrance poll data.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 63 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, Mittens, some Republicans are out of touch with reality. Trump's supporters definitely are.

[–] Sprokes@jlai.lu 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I agree. Anyone that was a republican before Jan 6 and hasn't changed their party affiliation is firmly in the "I'm ok with an orange faced dictator" boat.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The filter applies starting with Watergate, when Ford pardoned Nixon to be precise. Prior to that was the last time you can say the Republican party had any good in it.

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I never had any doubt that, even if I didn't vote for them or agree with their policies, at least Regan, and the bushes would willingly step down from the presidency if they lost. That's the key difference.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd argue a lot of them are perfectly aware of how shitty they are, they just enjoy being shitty people.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

They are like the high school seniors who have figured out that they'll never get into college or get a good job. They are going to screw things up for everyone else, because what else is there?

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I disagree. For example, a billionaire knows that Democrats want to raise his taxes and decrease his wealth. So it's pragmatic for him to vote for Republicans, despite having so much money it ceases being a unit of exchange and becomes just a scoreboard.

[–] doingless@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This would make sense if Democrats actually raised taxes significantly on the wealthy.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Democrats threaten to do it, Republicans absolutely won't. Rationally GOP is the safer bet.

edit: "Rationally" from a billionaire's point of view, not from a social or moral one.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Rationally, the GOP is the safer bet.

You are out of your mind.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

You missed my point there, bud.

If you're a billionaire who only cares about your money, and your choices are between one party that wants to cut your taxes and remove regulations on your businesses thereby decreasing your operating costs, and another party that talks about increasing your taxes and also increasing tax code enforcement, which do you support? It'd be irrational to not support the GOP and that was my original point- that not all Republicans are deluded Christofascists like Trump supporters. Immoral and evil, yes- but not insane.

To be absolutely clear, I am not in any way endorsing voting for any GOP candidate. They are an existential threat to America and their entire party should be disbanded and their leadership investigated for conspiracy and sedition at the very least.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know man sometimes not paying your guillotine insurance isn't a safe bet.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I'm definitely in favor of making the rich pay all of their taxes.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Whereas an empathetic billionaire (they don't actually exist) would recognize that they have enough money to pay for the entire lives of all of their descendants and actually interact with the Worker Class.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

You don't get to be that wealthy without taking advantage of other people. Nobody ever made a billion dollars by hard work alone.