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"Glaringly obvious" incompetence on display as judge tells jury to "disregard everything Ms. Habba just said"

Trump lawyer Alina Habba struggled through her cross-examination of E. Jean Carroll on Wednesday.

U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan, who is overseeing the defamation case against the former president, repeatedly admonished the attorney for running afoul of his court rules and general procedures.

Prior to Carroll’s testimony, Habba requested an adjournment so that Trump could attend his mother-in-law’s funeral.

“The application is denied. I will hear no further argument on it. None. Do you understand that word? None. Please sit down,” Kaplan, a Bill Clinton appointee, told Habba about the motion that he already denied.

Kaplan repeatedly interrupted Habba’s questions, including when she began to read from a document that had not been formally entered into evidence, sending the trial to a recess.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Right, you are evaluating her actions from the perspective of a lawyer who is trying to get the best outcome for their client within the legal framework of a trial. But that is not her goal.

Her goal is to make her client look like he's being persecuted. She doesn't care if her arguments are accepted by the judge. In fact, she would prefer the judge to go nuclear and lose his temper, because her client can use that to his advantage.

Trump is operating the same way. He practically begged the judge to throw him out of the courtroom. He got away with it because the judge understands exactly what Trump is doing. Trump would have used that expulsion to fundraise off of. He wants the courts mad at him, because he believes he can get votes out of it.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Trump is operating the same way. He practically begged the judge to throw him out of the courtroom. He got away with it because the judge understands exactly what Trump is doing.

The judge and Trump literally had an exchange in court the other day confirming what you are saying.

"Mr. Trump, I hope I don’t have to consider excluding you from the trial.”

Trump threw his hands up in response.

“I understand you’re probably eager for me to do that,” Kaplan said.

Reporters in the courtroom heard Trump say, “I would love it.”

“I know you would,” Kaplan said.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Can judges not order people to be gagged? I thought that was a thing?

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago

Trump wants to play victim.

This judge is literally about to cancel Trump Co, down to the last overpriced building.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The problem is that Trump has successfully turned any form of accountability into a campaigning and fundraising opportunity. Everybody insisted that his trials would sink his campaign, and they've done nothing but bolster it. His court appearances now are little more than glorified campaign rallies. And once Trump realized that not even court proceedings are enough to rattle his base, he has been exploiting that ever since.

He doesn't care about the outcome of this or any other trial any more, except for the SC case that would effectively remove him from the ballot. All he cares about is turning the court cases into circuses he can fundraise off of, and stalling for as long as possible until he wins a 2nd term in office and just makes all of it go away (Yes, even the state stuff, because he'd be in a position to say "you've made your decision, now let's see you enforce it.)

And the thing is, there's a non-zero chance he very well may get his wish

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Arcane_Trixster@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Wealthy people. Broke White people get fucked by the courts too.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 15 points 10 months ago

I think it can be both. She's trying to throw the case out (because that eats into "valuable" campaigning time) and she's also trying to make a circus so they can claim persecution, both of which she is failing spectacularly at.

Ultimately, he'll lose no votes, but I'm not interested in that for this particular case. I want to see Trump get the book thrown at him for being a whiny little baby who pathologically can't stop defaming the person he raped.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The judge is going to stay cool & keep handing Ms. Carroll cash, although I'd love to see Trump sitting in a jail cell till the end of this trial.

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

handing Ms. Carroll cash

Are we talking about the same assclown here?

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

E. Jean Carroll is the victim who is suing Trump for defamation. She already won once, then he immediately jumped in front of a news camera and defamed her again. Since he’s physically incapable of keeping his mouth shut, she’ll keep getting money from him.

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Fair, though the phrasing is what I questioned: he's not handing over anything. It's being taken from him and awarded this specific victim. Let's not, by any stretch of our language, give him one iota of benefit to any doubt. 🤌🏼

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

E. Jean Carroll is the victim that is currently using Trump like an ATM with no limit on withdrawals.

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Points A and B are not my concern, but the implication that the fetid fuckpuppet is somehow "handing" over his money at any point is. It's being taken from him, against his will, and deservedly so.