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[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 8 months ago

Tl;dr: nazi propaganda. Ww2 happened because the allies went too easy on Germany, any history book will tell you so.

[-] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That is true, if all the history you've ever learned was the history that came in your highschool books. It's a very simplistic take of a complex situation meant to be easily digestible by teenagers. I mean no offense.

Which is fine i suppose. If you think it's fine for you, then it is and i am happy that you are satisfied. I understand not everyone shares my curiosity for ww2 political history, however, I am very much not a nazi. I'm not even right wing. It would be nonsensical to defend right wing extremist ideology.

Criticism of the treaty of Versailles has been thoroughly written by many non nazi historians from allied countries. It just doesn't add much to the conversation to just write "nazi propaganda". It's not really an argument at all. No premises whatsoever. You could have just dropped your dislike because you feel you disagree and moved on.

Although i am very willing to read your thoughts if you could develop them a little more than that. I'm always willing to listen to a strong argument in favor of the treaty of Versailles and if you have a take i find insightful, perhaps even change my mind.

[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 7 months ago

Are those high-school books you mentioned from the USSR? Because all my teachers ever told me was that the French were mean to the Germans. Oh and the biggest economic crisis to ever happen occurred around the same time, but that's completely unrelated.

Truth is, it's not fair to call that nazi propaganda anymore, for the simple reason that the west started singing the same song. US would have struggled to expand its influence if it were linked directly linked to the origin of the problem, which may have pushed Europe to communism, France would have had to execute so many ranked military, etc.

I'm probably a lot less educated on the matter than you (as you condescendingly pointed out), but if letting a country invade everyone around is somehow being too hard on them, idk what to tell you. The right thing would have been to enforce the treaty of Versailles properly, the harsh thing would have been to let the French soldier do to the Germans after ww1, what the Russians wanted to do after ww2. No Dolchstoßlegende after that.

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